Just thought I would date myself. My first Kel-Tec product(s) were the P-10, a blind-magazine top-loader blow-back, polymer-frame DAO chambered for .380 ~ reloading was really slow, so I bought a second pistol for a "New York Reload"... Being an unlocked breach, they are kinda hefty so carrying them meant one in each jacket pocket to keep the total weight balanced... Never needed to draw either one, which I have always thought was a good thing. But I always felt better for having them...