Zhukov SU-16A

Discussion in 'SU-16' started by dvonella, Jul 5, 2016.

  1. dvonella

    dvonella New Member

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    So, I just picked up a Brand Spankin' New SU-16A this past weekend from a fun show in San Antonio. I have wanted one for a few years now and when I saw one I jumped at the chance. I loved everything about the rifle with the exception of the hand guards... I was not a fan of the bipod and I had to believe that as thin as the plastic was they would heat up pretty quick with sustain fire. So as I was at my workbench installing a set of Zhukov hand guards on a customers AK I had a shot of inspiration. Pictures are of the completed project. I am really pleased with how it turned out, now I just need to figure out with I want the Primary Arms 1x6 or the red dot on top for the optic...
     

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  2. TexasVine

    TexasVine New Member

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  3. dvonella

    dvonella New Member

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    thank you sir! looking at it I am not sure if the hand guard is parallel with the barrel, may have some more work to do tomorrow...
     
  4. 850sub

    850sub Well-Known Member

    Nov 7, 2012
    Pensacola
    Nice. I have the same idea, for the Sub-2000. You beat me to it!
     
  5. dvonella

    dvonella New Member

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    I had to modify the back end of the hand guard mount to fit around the barrel nut and the polymer support struts on the reliever (I expected that part) what I did not really expect was having to modify the barrel mounting blocks and having to use longer screws. It seems the barrel on SU-16 is thicker than an AK... not sure if the same is true on the subbie
     
  6. dvonella

    dvonella New Member

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    I shot my Zhukov-16 today and I really like the way it handles, it is rock solid and did not heat up at all. At the end of my range session I dumped three 30 rounders and the hand guard did warm up but I was still able to hold it with no issue... all in all I have to say I am rather pleased with this project... I may have to add this as a service at the gunshop where I work
     
  7. mtacm

    mtacm Member

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    Jun 27, 2016
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    That does look good. Possibility of a modification guide or for sale pre-modified?
     
  8. dvonella

    dvonella New Member

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    tell you what when I get some time I will take some pictures and do a little write-up, if you do not feel comfortable following what I have written up I am sure that I would have no issue modifying one for you
     
  9. mtacm

    mtacm Member

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    Jun 27, 2016
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    That sounds great, I appreciate that!
     
  10. zaitcev

    zaitcev Active Member

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    This looks phenomenal. I already installed a MOE rail onto the stock bipod forend, right in the position where Zhukov slots are. I had to use glue gun to align the rail, because the stock plastic slopes there.

    Can't wait to see the detail of the rear end, e.g. where that screw goes into, did you have to drill the "trunion" (or what comes for it on SU).

    That said, I got into a habit of putting my SU onto bipod to cool it down after shooting, so it does not melt the insides of the gun sock. I'll need to re-learn the procedure. I also need a new sling attachment with this, because I use the stock front sling point. But it can go into the left side MOE easily.

    P.S. Just ordered it.
     
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  11. dvonella

    dvonella New Member

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    sorry all, I have been busy with work, I will do my best to get a write up done this weekend... the only modifications that I have done to the SU-16 itself were to remove the stock handguard and mounting pin and remove the handguard retainer and spring... my goal was to make no mods to the rifle itself so I could bring it back to stock if needed
     
  12. zaitcev

    zaitcev Active Member

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    I threw an installation together quick. I used the barrel for a mandrel and wrapped layers of paper around it until I obtained a suitable diameter - just under the size of the thicker section - and wrapped sandpaper around that. This was a quick and dirty way to adjust the blocks.

    One thing I failed to notice is that the forend does not reach as close to the receiver as the old folding forend did. So the gun has a goofy outline of a pump action now. But at least I got the rails. Note that dvonella's installation is set properly. He knows a certain secret that eludes me. Maybe he trimmed the heat shield somehow.

    Update: People were asking the barrel thickness on SU-16C. The diameter under the handguard is 18.7 mm.
     

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  13. Junkie

    Junkie Member

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    I'd love to see a real guide if someone has the time
     
  14. dvonella

    dvonella New Member

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    You are correct about the heat shield, I did some pretty significant trimming to get it to fit around the barrel lug supports.

    I am sorry i have not been able to get back to everyone who has asked for pictures and instructions I promise you that I will get it done but I had to take emergency leave for a death in my family and now I have just received my medical retirement date from the Army (about a month away) as I am sure you can imagine things are getting REALLY busy for me... but I promise you I will get it done
     
  15. rygo_81

    rygo_81 New Member

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    Sorry for your loss and thank you for your service to our country. I just purchased an Su-16c and am amazed at the ingenuity of people such as yourself. Just wanted to let you know that's appreciated and no need to rush on our account.
     
  16. SNAFU

    SNAFU Active Member

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    Feb 24, 2006
    Looks great! BTW good choice for optics, just remember that anything that overhangs the rail (like a typical scope) must be taken off to field strip the weapon due to the angle the gas tube has to make to be removed from the receiver. IMO the SU-16 is most suited to short optics like the ones you are considering.
     
  17. Junkie

    Junkie Member

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    May 26, 2015
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    I agree on that, I think it's better served by a red dot than a magnified optic.
     
  18. zaitcev

    zaitcev Active Member

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    Nov 6, 2007
    An ACOG fits just fine. But I use a red dot.
     
  19. DaveHufford

    DaveHufford Member

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    Sep 22, 2016
    Su-16c with zhukov hand guard

    This is "How-to" approach that I used to mate the Zhukov to my Su-16C.

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  20. Junkie

    Junkie Member

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    Nice. Thanks for posting it.