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Picked this one up a couple of weeks ago.



No issues to report, it has reliably consumed everything I've thrown at it.
Haven't shot it off a rest yet, but offhand, CCI A22 has produced the best groups (as well as a very pleasing boom! :p ) which is a good thing, because I've seen it around.
Always on the lookout for other ammo to try out, though.
 

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Picked this one up a couple of weeks ago.



No issues to report, it has reliably consumed everything I've thrown at it.
Haven't shot it off a rest yet, but offhand, CCI A22 has produced the best groups (as well as a very pleasing boom! :p ) which is a good thing, because I've seen it around.
Always on the lookout for other ammo to try out, though.
Congrats and Sweet! :)

after longing for one for years?...I too finally purchased one just last week and what a sweet yet sassy shooting pistol! :)
 

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Took the PMR to the range the other day with a variety of ammo, pleased to say it continues to devour everything I've thrown at it without complaint. Seemed to like the Hornady 30 gr. V-Max the best.
Then, I loaded up some S&B 40 gr.(I know, non-US made) to try out... just five rounds, checking that everything looked OK between shots... afterwards, I picked up the brass to inspect it and saw this: :eek:



A few of them (S&B only) had a bit of bulge, this one being the worst.
Guess I'll be marking them "Bolt-action rifle ONLY"
So, how close would y'all say I came to something bad happening?
 

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I wish I had one of you guys' guns. First time out mine had so may failure to feeds and slide locked open with rounds still in the magazine that I gave up and went home. It's now been cleaned. a little polishing done, and ready to try again. If it's not better, I'm calling Kel-Tec. Truly disappointed. Certainly not a "sweet and sassy" shooting pistol. At this point I would not trust it to take more than one shot at a time.
 

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I wish I had one of you guys' guns. First time out mine had so may failure to feeds and slide locked open with rounds still in the magazine that I gave up and went home. It's now been cleaned. a little polishing done, and ready to try again. If it's not better, I'm calling Kel-Tec. Truly disappointed. Certainly not a "sweet and sassy" shooting pistol. At this point I would not trust it to take more than one shot at a time.
I feel for ya Bro and nothing stinks worse than to pay good money for a new auto-pistol that proves itself to be an out-of-the-box jam-o-matic but guess what?...it quite literally happens with even the best of'em on occasion.

Production grade Auto-pistols are like a hot date...ya can't just go rushing in cause ya gotta get to know them and it all starts with finding out what their favorite food is and even then?...(sometimes "especially then")...things can get off to a rocky start but hang in there and pet her just the right way?...and things could work out long term and maybe even discover your new soul mate! LOL! :)

Can you imagine how I felt sitting on a case of 1,000 new rounds that were offering up 4-5 FTF's per mag?....dropped a 5" barrel in her and she hasn't so much as coughed since...bang every time without fail.

But yes...we do see quite a few new PMR owners that aren't happy campers...but it's always the same story...new gun...new recoil springs...everything tight and nothings broken in yet...and all based in a zytel/polymer frame which is all held together with a small, thin waisted pin...(are ya seeing where I'm going with this?)...because I think what Keltec has done is "Protect Themselves From Liability Issues" by using a rather heavy recoil spring to protect the integrity of a pistol they know is going to get the he11 hammered out of it and in doing so?...hit on some borderline reliability issues where some of the looser ones do but the tighter ones don't.

Taking that into consideration?...along with what I experienced?...

I bet if 90% of the new PMR owners who weren't happy and had repeated FTF's dropped a PMR-505 5" barrel upgrade in their PMR?...

they'd be grinning ear too ear and you couldn't tear that pistol away from them.

BTW?....I just described myself and my own experiences. ;)
 

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Took the PMR to the range the other day with a variety of ammo, pleased to say it continues to devour everything I've thrown at it without complaint. Seemed to like the Hornady 30 gr. V-Max the best.
Then, I loaded up some S&B 40 gr.(I know, non-US made) to try out... just five rounds, checking that everything looked OK between shots... afterwards, I picked up the brass to inspect it and saw this: :eek:



A few of them (S&B only) had a bit of bulge, this one being the worst.
Guess I'll be marking them "Bolt-action rifle ONLY"
So, how close would y'all say I came to something bad happening?
I think it is starting to extract before the pressure goes down. I have had one rupture, not with S&B, but with CCI, in an aftermarket barrel. It wasn't too bad. None of the debris that hit my face broke the skin, but I am glad I had eye protection on. I once tried some Sellier & Bellot .22 magnum in a Grendel P-30. It was a disaster. I don't think I ever got two in a row to fire without some kind of stoppage or malfunction, including a squib. The Grendel is notoriously picky about its ammo. I shot the rest of the S&B in a Ruger Single Six revolver, and the power was all over the map. Obvious variations in sound and recoil. I just assumed that I had a bad lot. I do like their center-fire ammo, but their .22 mag is apparently junk, bordering on unsafe. I had seen some of their .22 LR for sale, but avoided it because of my experience with the .22 mag. I would even be leery of shooting the S&B in a bolt action rifle that has a good barrel.

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I think it is starting to extract before the pressure goes down. I have had one rupture, not with S&B, but with CCI, in an aftermarket barrel. It wasn't too bad. None of the debris that hit my face broke the skin, but I am glad I had eye protection on. I once tried some Sellier & Bellot .22 magnum in a Grendel P-30. It was a disaster. I don't think I ever got two in a row to fire without some kind of stoppage or malfunction, including a squib. The Grendel is notoriously picky about its ammo. I shot the rest of the S&B in a Ruger Single Six revolver, and the power was all over the map. Obvious variations in sound and recoil. I just assumed that I had a bad lot. I do like their center-fire ammo, but their .22 mag is apparently junk, bordering on unsafe. I had seen some of their .22 LR for sale, but avoided it because of my experience with the .22 mag. I would even be leery of shooting the S&B in a bolt action rifle that has a good barrel.

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Glad I have less than 200 rounds of it, then. I've always had good luck with their centerfire, too... bought of ton of their 9mm before I started reloading.
Still reloading some of that brass.
Also glad I was shooting this stuff indoors... the way the PMR launches brass, I've never been able to find any when shooting in the backyard.
 
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