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Howdy everyone. I am a new member of your fine club of Kel-tec owners. Today I bought a brand spankin' new P3-AT with the gray frame. I can't wait to get out and shoot it. I have it in my pocket now and am amazed at how light it is. You definitely forget that it's there.

I have been reading about the base plat for the Bersa magazines. Does that help a good bit to control the muzzle flip since it gives you more to grip?
 

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Welcome to KTOG. Yes the Bersa (or NAA) base plates make a world of difference in control of this little fellow. Personally I prefer my modified NAAs but both work well.
 
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My next question is that I see so many posts about people having a good amount of problems in the first 200 rounds.  Does anyone not have any problems out of the box?  

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My next question is that I see so many posts about people having a good amount of problems in the first 200 rounds.  Does anyone not have any problems out of the box?  
  Let's do the math:

  Kel-Tec makes about 1000 P3ATs per week. That's 52,000 per year.

  KTOG has 7,848 members at this instant. Of those members probably only 4000 own P3ATs of the 200,000 or so that are out there.

  Of that 4000 P3ATs that exist on a forum devoted to solving problems, and where the perfect ones have no incentive to seek us out, IMO 25% work out of the box.

  KT has told us their failure rate is 3-5%. Let's use the "Worst Case" of 5%.

  That means that every year there are 49,400 P3ATs that function well right out of the box.

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mine worked flawlessly out of the box...did a cleaning and mild f&b after the first 100 and haven't looked back since.......maybe i should play lotto????? by the way aboard..don't be afraid to ask questions,even it's the 100th time for the same question everyone here is very forgiving and VERY informative
 

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Thanks for all the words of support from everyone. I greatly appreciate it. For questions that have already been asked and answered, here's one. Does the fluff and buff void the warranty at all? I would imagine no since so many have done it, but want to make sure first.
 

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It takes a lot to void the KT warranty. Even if you overdo the Flyer Barrel Hood mod, for example, KT would still warrant the REST of the pistol.

If the problem was DUE to the massive amount of metal you removed from the barrel though, then KT would just charge you to replace the barrel. Your warranty would then be good as new.

I have NEVER heard of a case where a KT warranty was VOIDED permanently. Jocko once told us about a very expensive slide porting and refinishing job that had to go back for a slide replacement. Did Kt void his warranty? NO, but he got back a free stock slide and lost the money he had spent on improvements.

KT Service doesn't mind if you TRY to make a repair, give up and send them a box of parts. They will still fix it for free.

So, NO! unless you are going to remove a lot of metal in your F & B, your warranty will be safe.

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Two Pistol Packer said:
    KT Service doesn't mind if you TRY to make a repair, give up and send them a box of parts. They will still fix it for free.
In my case of a simple broken part, not a design flaw or manufacturing problem, just a trigger axis that broke, KT encouraged me to try and fix it myself and told me if I couldn't do to send it back to them in pieces.

That gave me lots of confidence to learn about my weapon - and then sent it back to them after I screwed it up worse! No questions asked at all.

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A fluff & buff is nothing more than polishing. It absolutely will not void your warranty.

http://www.goldenloki.com/guns/keltec/prep.htm

http://www.goldenloki.com/guns/keltec/prep2.htm

Do as much or as little as you like, or nothing at all. I am still a proponent. I think it makes the gun run smoother, can improve the trigger, feeding and general reliability. It also gets you to know your gun on a personal basis.

Proper lubrication of these ultralights is a must:

http://www.goldenloki.com/guns/keltec/care2.htm
 

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My wife and I each have a P3-AT. Both have been 100 percent flawless, with NO fluff and buff done.

Not one single failure at all. ;D

Some here would have you believe that over half have problems... but, such is life.
 

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Well that is good to know. Mine has a J7 s/n. Does anyone else here have a J7 s/n? What has been your experience so far?

So far, I love carrying the gun. It is so light. I just have an Uncle Mike's pocket holster. It is ok, but I think I want to get a better one.
 
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Well that is good to know.  Mine has a J7 s/n.  Does anyone else here have a J7 s/n?  What has been your experience so far?  

So far, I love carrying the gun.  It is so light.  I just have an Uncle Mike's pocket holster.  It is ok, but I think I want to get a better one.  
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longtalltechsan said:
Well that is good to know.  Mine has a J7 s/n.  Does anyone else here have a J7 s/n?  What has been your experience so far?  

So far, I love carrying the gun.  It is so light.  I just have an Uncle Mike's pocket holster.  It is ok, but I think I want to get a better one.  
LTT,
I added a second P3AT a couple of weeks ago. It is HC with a green grip and a J7XXX s/n. I did a good fluff and buff on the feed ramp, barrell hood, chamber, hammer surface, and breech surface. Also some 400 GR paper in the grooves on the slide where they fit on the frame rails. Oliled with the MMC oil that came from KelTec, and also a light coat of the MMC synthetic lithium grease on the rails. Took it to the range last weekend and ran 200 continuous rounds of FMJ through it without any problems. Functioned perfectly every round, no cleaning necessary during the range trip. Basically the same story with my first 3AT. F&B +Good Lube = Reliable pistol for me. Now both of my 3AT's are on cary duty. I am Using a rear pocket leather holster. see pictures.

 
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