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God, how hard can it it be to make a spring! How many years has it been???

Talked with them today.

Yes, they are planning (soon) to have available a "full" spring set for the our 380's.

Problem: OEM and military orders...and only 11 employees!

P.S. If I owned a small company "that" busy, I would simply hire more help!!!!!

I understand the labor-cost issue. Excess labor...and associated cost...has to be considereed. I've just redueced gross empyoyee count from 127,000 + to approx. 91,000.
 

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pocketgun: yes...also University of Michigan undergraduate, Harvard JD/MBA @ 19 yrs old., Penn/Wharton REIA (Wharton Business) , Law School Penn , LL.M Real Estate, LL.M. Taxation, and finally back to University of Michigan Graduate School of Business for a GRI.

Married a Super Model 27 yrs. younger than myself. Even though she is getting a little "long-in-the-tooth," she still makes more in a month than I earn in a year!

Should have married her mother...who is 10 yrs. younger than me!
 

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Well, I have been after tham for a while now but it was before I joined up here.

I wanted to perk up my P3AT so I checked Wolff like I always do when I want to perk up a pistol...
NOTHING FOR THE P3AT!

So I sent them an email. They told me the same thing, this was about two weeks ago...
 

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Go to www.rugerforum.com and read what COFFEE POT, a retired Ruger Design Engineer has to say about recoil spring design.I asked him if Jocko's slide cracks could have been from using the Wollf 13# P32 springs and his answer was ABSOLUTELY! followed by an explanation. See "outer and inner springs"
 

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From MY reading of that Ruger Forum thread, Coffeepot was all FOR using a heavier spring. Not that I recommend such--I believe in changing factory springs often instead.

But when he was asked about Jocko's gun, I got the impression that he was thinking a STOCK p32 spring had been used, and answered accordingly--That such a weak spring would be detrimental in the more powerful .380.

I don't think he realized that the 13 Pound spring was actually MORE powerful than the stock P32 recoil springs.

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I used the word Wolff, so I am sure he, as a designer, knew it was an aftermarket spring. What is the pressure of a P32 spring? He also said, perhaps after you read the thread ,that he preached OE springs to avoid problems. He did say that a more powerful spring might not hurt, as long as it wasn't too heavy and didn't interfere with reliable cycling.If a spring is designed for a .32 and it is 13#, if it is not too heavy in the .32 to interfere with reliable cycling, it may be too light for a .380 that has much higher pressures. If the said Wolff spring is acceptable for the .380, why are we asking them to design a spring for the .380
 

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Two Pistol Packer:

I need to learn how to post pics on KTOG. I have already printed out all the instructions on how to do so...just haven't read it yet!

You always have beautiful women on your "tag" Just made up that word...you know what I mean.

I met Jolie a long time ago when she was a kid...hanging out with Tatum O'Neil...good friends at that time in ancient history...she and Tatum...not me. All I can say is that she is much more beautiful as a 30+ woman than she was as a teenager!

I will eventually post a "tag" of my wife...the "Romanian."
 

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quickmick7:

My next birthday I will be 58...where has all the time gone?

My favorite bands are as follows: Cure, Hole, Train, and Three Doors Down.

You know you are getting old when your wife considers "those" bands as the Everly Brothers of "my" time!

I'm still in better physical condition than her...seems that in Romania one can smoke as soon as one is able to walk. And can she smoke...cigs that will make me almost pass-out!

P.S. You want to know something funny (actually very sad). She is going to vote for Obama...even though she grew up in a country under Soviet occupation (sp). Why...he looks good!

In the words of Michael Savage, "What a world I'm living in."
 

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Sassi said:
MNOG brings up some good questions.  If the KT 32 Wolf springs work in the P3AT why do we need something specific for the P3AT?  Any body know the answer?
2pp* has a good point too.  If the KT springs work in the KT, why do we need something else?

-Scott

* Pardon me Packer if I am mis-attributing this but I thought it was what I have seen you post many other times.
 

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This thread needs to get back on track and get back on NOW.


Somebody needs to help Boggs51 get his pics posted ;)
 

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adamsesq said:
2pp* has a good point too.  If the KT springs work in the KT, why do we need something else?

-Scott

* Pardon me Packer if I am mis-attributing this but I thought it was what I have seen you post many other times.  
Nothing to pardon, Scott.

Yep! That's how I feel! Change them every 500 rounds and they work perfectly. I have tried all the Wolff recoil Springs and always came back to stock as the best.

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I'm currently talking to Hogue to make a slip on grip for the P3AT, just got a Handall Jr. just needs some cutting to make it fit properly but I LOVE the hand swell. I have large hands and the palm swell is just what the doctor ordered at least for me. Without it the grip was just to thin for me now it's well..... perfect! :D

Tom j.
 
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