Why o Why?

Discussion in 'P-3AT' started by idahoglock36, Mar 15, 2008.

  1. idahoglock36

    idahoglock36 New Member

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    Mar 15, 2008
    1st gen p3at has been back to the mothership since 1/25/08....broke the pf9 on 1/28 sent it back too....now second time for the p3 and first for the pf9 called today and the "old man" csr said at least 8 weeks to get it back....but it does come next day ups.....

    Why do we put up with this ----?  They conceal great but they don't work!!!!!!!!Keep wishing but it aint gonna happen!

    BTW-I also have an old Grendel....so I know the company history well....

    Nothing to report but grief!!!!and anticipation that they might work when they come back.
     
  2. doubloon

    doubloon New Member

    Jan 5, 2008
    Houston-ish, TX
    Mine works, maybe you should think about selling yours.
     

  3. c0wboi38

    c0wboi38 New Member

    Sep 19, 2006
    I'll make you special deal....

    $100 for both when they get back. Or even $100 each. But since I don't expect you to be here at this board very long, I won't hold my breath waiting for an answer.

    ;)
     
  4. idahoglock36

    idahoglock36 New Member

    8
    Mar 15, 2008
    .....

    How about I'll trade you straigt across yours for mine....when it gets back of course.....[reason]KEEP IT POLITE[/reason]
     
  5. engineer88

    engineer88 New Member

    376
    Nov 26, 2007
    I know quite a few people (in person, not internet) who have hundreds or even thousands of rounds through their P32's and P3AT's and they are still ticking. Never sent them back. Don't wanna hurt your feelings, but sometimes I feel cursed with certain things failing me a lot too. That can be a sucky feeling. Fortunately, I have not had it yet with any of my firearms. I love the warranty for that though. It is a bit like health insurance. No big deal if you have it or not when you don't need it, but when you are sick it sure is nice to have. :)
     
  6. JFB

    JFB New Member

    Jul 25, 2005
    Who is this WE? :-?
    Not me
     
  7. idahoglock36

    idahoglock36 New Member

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    Mar 15, 2008
    Thanks to some of you for encouraging words.  Thanks to the others who read and let me vent.

    I'm sure glad some of you have had no problems with your P3at's, by chance would any of you be willing to sell you totally reliable p3at?....I would pay a good price to get one that works.  PM me if interested and if we work out a price I'll send you the details to ship to my local gunshop-for FFL transfer of course.  The pistol would need to come from a reputable board member and I would post my results and feedback on this board.

    I guess I'm just frustrated with sending the pistols back (and in the p3's case multiple times) and such a long wait for repair.....please don't comment on the other manufactures repair times...I read your post.

    I report when they come back, how long it took and how they shoot.  

    Thanks for your time.
     
  8. sprinter1

    sprinter1 New Member

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    Jan 1, 2006
    It might help if you listed some of the problems you have had to require to send them back. It may not be the guns fault at all, it could be something as simple as limp wristing which is easily corrected. These light weight guns do have a small learning curve that is different than a larger heavier gun. If we had more information we may be able to help you out.
     
  9. fatman

    fatman New Member

    Apr 6, 2005
    I understand your frustration. The little KTs are a lot better than they used to be but if you use them very much you will be sending one back every now and then.

    I used to bear with it and tell people that since there was nothing else on the market so small and light KT was still the way to go. Now I'm waiting to see the Kahr 380 hit the market in midsummer (or whenever) to see if there is a significant improvement in quality and durability. At Kahr prices I would certainly hope so.
     
  10. idahoglock36

    idahoglock36 New Member

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    Mar 15, 2008
    I'll be trying the Kahr 380 out regardless of price.

    Still waiting for boys to return home....I'll report when they do.
     
  11. Moleman

    Moleman New Member

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    Mar 12, 2008
    Oops, goofed up the quote feature. Mine didn't work out of the box.
     
  12. forestranger

    forestranger Active Member

    Jan 29, 2008
    NC
    I must be doing something wrong :-[. P3AT-1st gen-1000+rds, PF9-1000+rds, PF9-500+rds & P11-2000+ rds and none of em ever been sent back? Can't say the same for some of my "high quality" pistols :'(.
     
  13. alamo

    alamo New Member

    Sep 12, 2004
    +1 on this. Tell us what problem was.
     
  14. engineer88

    engineer88 New Member

    376
    Nov 26, 2007
    I am gonna be real honest with you, this forum has helped me with my other handguns as well. My wife's little Beretta had some issues recently. I was all set to send it back or trade it up (she wants a revolver). Long story short I knew to polish the feed ramp and check the rails and a bit of work on the chamber and voila! The darn thing is feeding and working fine again. Had I not been familiar with this forum and the standard practices preached here, I would have been one ticked off Beretta customer.
     
  15. forestranger

    forestranger Active Member

    Jan 29, 2008
    NC
    I think this forum has been a big factor in none of mine going back too. ;)
     
  16. sprinter1

    sprinter1 New Member

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    Jan 1, 2006
  17. Chuck-Baby

    Chuck-Baby New Member

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    Jan 28, 2008
    If you are really considering purchasing a new pistol, put the older one up for sale and purchase a 2nd generation. I have a 2nd generation and have not had a problem through about 150 rounds. I know all the posts that say the second round caused a problem and all but I did not have the first hint of a problem. I would recommend the 2nd generation with confidence.
     
  18. Moleman

    Moleman New Member

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    Mar 12, 2008
    It's a luck-shot, Chuck-Baby. The 2nd Gen can be just as buggy. I bought mine in January and it's back to KT for service. From what I hear and see at the local ranges in my area, some work just great out-of-the-box, others go back to KT or get put in a drawer/traded-in as-is. Wish they were all 100%, but, oh well.
     
  19. TxCajun

    TxCajun Administrator Staff Member Supporter

    Sep 7, 2004
    Texas
    Actually Chuck, I'd say your experience is very typical.  The vast majority of P3ATs work perfectly well out of the box and they are better than the 1st gen guns in terms of reliablity.  That is probably mostly do to the little bit of weight that was added.  Regarding the small percentage of those that have a problem, when you remove operator error (limp-wristing) that number drops even more. We see that here all the time.
     
  20. learfxr

    learfxr New Member

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    Dec 21, 2007
    My P3AT has been gone for 8 weeks and no word on when it will come back. They won't send emails or answer them. I can never remember to call before thier closing time since it's 3pm here when they close. I have bought mag extensions, grip pads etc to test it with when it gets back to see if it's my fault. But if it fails, it's gone.