Why hasn't KelTec chambered 22 lr in these pistols

Discussion in 'P-3AT' started by Skychief, Mar 24, 2008.

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  1. Mar 24, 2008 #1
    Skychief

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    Anybody know why not? I think they would sell like hotcakes to P32 and P3AT owners and to others as well! Just curious. I cant seem to get my search to work properly, so, forgive me if this has been talked about before. Thanks, Skychief!
     
    Skychief, Mar 24, 2008
    Skychief, Mar 24, 2008
  3. Mar 24, 2008 #2
    adamsesq

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    Re: Why hasn't KelTec chambered 22 lr in these pis

    Not enough power to cycle the slides?

    -Scott
     
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  5. Mar 24, 2008 #3
    TxCajun

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    Re: Why hasn't KelTec chambered 22 lr in these pis

    I don't think it would 22LR would work in a locked breech gun. They are generally all blow-backs so there would be no simple caliber conversion from P3 to 22LR. It would have to be a whole new design/gun. That said, I'd love to have one.
     
    TxCajun, Mar 24, 2008
    TxCajun, Mar 24, 2008
  6. Mar 25, 2008 #4
    PshootR

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    Re: Why hasn't KelTec chambered 22 lr in these pis

    I can think of two possible solutions:
    First, an aluminum slide and an aluminum barrel with a steel barrel liner. Maybe this setup would be light enough to cycle a locked breech .22.
    Second, a .22 barrel without the locking lug at the top which would attach to the aluminum frame without recoiling by using the assembly pin. The slide would of course recoil but the barrel would remain fixed in the traditional .22 blow back operational method.
    A P.22 would be cool IMHO!
     
    PshootR, Mar 25, 2008
    PshootR, Mar 25, 2008
  7. Mar 25, 2008 #5
    Sangueffusor

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    Re: Why hasn't KelTec chambered 22 lr in these pis

    Two Pistol Packer was experimenting with making a .22 conversion for the P-11 back before his shop fell through the floor. I imagine that project is on hold now, though.
     
    Sangueffusor, Mar 25, 2008
    Sangueffusor, Mar 25, 2008
  8. Mar 25, 2008 #6
    Packer

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    Re: Why hasn't KelTec chambered 22 lr in these pis

      My P3-22 conversion kit, which I cannot yet make, will use the second method. Steel barrel, stock blowback slide. No modiification to basic P3AT

    Packer, who is waiting for new machinery to arrive and set up.
     
    Packer, Mar 25, 2008
    Packer, Mar 25, 2008
  9. Mar 25, 2008 #7
    djsdad

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    Re: Why hasn't KelTec chambered 22 lr in these pis

    Just make it a bolt action pistol.... :-?
     
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  10. Mar 26, 2008 #8
    Thatguy331

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    Re: Why hasn't KelTec chambered 22 lr in these pis

    The Walther P22 shoots 22LR just fine with a standard DA/SA blowback operation.

    The P-3AT is as small a gun as I can comfortably hold, so if they made a smaller 22LR pistol many people just couldn't use it, and if it was the same size as the P-3AT, why go with a smaller round for a gun made to CCW?

    I'd say buy the Walther P22 if you want a plinking pistol, I really like mine.
     
    Thatguy331, Mar 26, 2008
    Thatguy331, Mar 26, 2008
  11. Mar 26, 2008 #9
    Packer

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    Re: Why hasn't KelTec chambered 22 lr in these pis

     Well, I'm pretty sure wives, GFs & new shooters would like it.  

     With the same grip and trigger, most of P3-22 shooting would corelate to P3AT practice. The idea is to practice with nearly the same gun for pennies a shot instead of what .380 ammo costs. I figure that a .22 conversion would quickly pay for itself. After that, it would be like shooting for free.

      Also, you could shoot it PLENTY without causing much wear and tear.

      Anybody ELSE want one?

    Packer.
     
    Packer, Mar 26, 2008
    Packer, Mar 26, 2008
  12. Mar 26, 2008 #10
    engineer88

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    Re: Why hasn't KelTec chambered 22 lr in these pis

    Yeah, toss my name in the hat. I would buy one of these suckers for sure. They would be fun!
     
    engineer88, Mar 26, 2008
    engineer88, Mar 26, 2008
  13. Mar 26, 2008 #11
    cm

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    Re: Why hasn't KelTec chambered 22 lr in these pis

    Me too.
    My care person has a Walthers P22.
    To big to carry. My P3AT kicks too much.
    She tried the P32. Still didn't like it.
    she likes the P22 and the size of my P3AT.
    Go for it.
    Charlie.
     
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    cm, Mar 26, 2008
  14. Mar 26, 2008 #12
    rls1158

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    Re: Why hasn't KelTec chambered 22 lr in these pis

    I'd love to have the conversion when you get them up and running.

    Reggie
     
    rls1158, Mar 26, 2008
    rls1158, Mar 26, 2008
  15. Mar 27, 2008 #13
    Nu_Agin_Shooter

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    Re: Why hasn't KelTec chambered 22 lr in these pis


    Walt-

    Put my name on the list for the P3-22....and check your PM's about another matter!

    I have sold 4 Glocks...all full size frames except the G27.  I am now waiting for an Advantage Arms 22 Conversion Kit that will fit two of the Glocks I have sold.

    Everyday... the price of ammo goes up.  To be able to shoot 22lr from the same platform as my carry and target guns....SUPER advantage!  SUPER savings.


    Mitch......Eagerly awaiting his P3AT metal triggers....and now the P3-22 kit!
     
    Nu_Agin_Shooter, Mar 27, 2008
    Nu_Agin_Shooter, Mar 27, 2008
  16. Mar 27, 2008 #14
    cm

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    Re: Why hasn't KelTec chambered 22 lr in these pis

    Keep us informed.
    Charlie
     
    cm, Mar 27, 2008
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  17. Mar 27, 2008 #15
    Packer

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    Re: Why hasn't KelTec chambered 22 lr in these pis

    Hi Charlie! Here's some more info: The P3AT conversion will work in EITHER first or seond generation of P3AT.

    Packer.
     
    Packer, Mar 27, 2008
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  18. Mar 27, 2008 #16
    cm

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    Re: Why hasn't KelTec chambered 22 lr in these pis

    Hi Packer.
    I've got one of the first 2'd gen P3AT. S# HUExx
    I'll be waiting for the 22lr conversion.
    Charlie.
     
    cm, Mar 27, 2008
    cm, Mar 27, 2008
  19. Mar 27, 2008 #17
    PshootR

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    Re: Why hasn't KelTec chambered 22 lr in these pis

    I can't wait for Packer's P.22 conversion!
     
    PshootR, Mar 27, 2008
    PshootR, Mar 27, 2008
  20. Mar 28, 2008 #18
    jtf650

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    Re: Why hasn't KelTec chambered 22 lr in these pis

    Packer: Will the conversion work with a P32?
     
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  21. Mar 28, 2008 #19
    PshootR

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    Re: Why hasn't KelTec chambered 22 lr in these pis

    Obviously, Packer is the proper person to answer this, but I'm pretty sure he will say "No".
     
    PshootR, Mar 28, 2008
    PshootR, Mar 28, 2008
  22. Mar 28, 2008 #20
    Packer

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    Re: Why hasn't KelTec chambered 22 lr in these pis

      Sorry! Not at this time. I'm not ruling OUT a P-32 conversion--Just haven't researched that yet. As of now I have no design for a P32 .22 conversion.

    Anyone who has both P32 P3At: Please mike the two barrels at the largest (bellmouth) end and report their widths?

    Packer
     
    Packer, Mar 28, 2008
    Packer, Mar 28, 2008
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