I was wondering why not just go with the +1 extension instead of just the finger one? Total height from extension tip to slide seems to be similar I would think, and you get an extra round with the +1. Only possible advantage of the finger type is the slightly larger "printing" area. Draw clearance should be close since you still have to clear the finger extension.
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I agree and like only the +1s after trying others. My loaded mags have the +1s, my extra mags do not. The hooks just jab into me in my pocket or in the smartcarry. Admittedly I never tried filing them down in any way.
I do disagree with 2pp a bit though in that there were often times when the hooks would interfere with my carrying and even a few times when the +1 does. Rare with the +1 but it still exists. Even in 2pp's picture above you couldn't have a +1 on the extra mag.
-Scott
I do disagree with 2pp a bit though in that there were often times when the hooks would interfere with my carrying and even a few times when the +1 does. Rare with the +1 but it still exists. Even in 2pp's picture above you couldn't have a +1 on the extra mag.
-Scott
no right answer, no wrong answer. go with what works for you.
try them all, use what you like.
i had a hard time spending the $$ for the +1 at about 1/2 the cost of the magazine.
but then again, I do not carry a spare mag for the p3at. If I need that much firepower, I am using the wrong gun.
It is not an OK Corral type of pistol. Get me out of a jam, that is all.
No more no less.
try them all, use what you like.
i had a hard time spending the $$ for the +1 at about 1/2 the cost of the magazine.
but then again, I do not carry a spare mag for the p3at. If I need that much firepower, I am using the wrong gun.
It is not an OK Corral type of pistol. Get me out of a jam, that is all.
No more no less.
Sorry to read of your failing vision. When you get stronger glasses, feast your eyes on the finger extensions below. Even if they didn’t look ten times better, the additional control of that little hook would be sufficient to justify them over the 1+.Rustynuts said:
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Wilson – who’s completely open minded about finger extensions :
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Lol, good point Wilson!
Personally I do not have any extensions on my Kel-Tecs. I had one on my PF-9, but when it got sent back to me from service it did not have the extension (I did call and they agreed to send me another one, but they apparently got confused and sent me a new magazine...I still have no extension, but I don't think I should bother their poor customer service dept about it now! ;D ).
For the P3-AT, I can fire it fine without the extension. The only thing that would lead me to consider one is the prospect of weapon retention...its much easier to retain control with the extension if someone was trying to grapple for it or something. Honestly, as is, it is a pretty nice setup. Wilson is right, an extension would make it [email protected] and stylish to behold, but really, the extra grip size from either the finger extension or the +1 extension outweigh the potential benefits for me. At least right now!
Oh, and +1 to RJ on the purpose of the P3-AT. If you have to reload a mousegun, you may be wasting valuable [email protected] time. Still, can't fault the "be prepared" ethic.
Personally I do not have any extensions on my Kel-Tecs. I had one on my PF-9, but when it got sent back to me from service it did not have the extension (I did call and they agreed to send me another one, but they apparently got confused and sent me a new magazine...I still have no extension, but I don't think I should bother their poor customer service dept about it now! ;D ).
For the P3-AT, I can fire it fine without the extension. The only thing that would lead me to consider one is the prospect of weapon retention...its much easier to retain control with the extension if someone was trying to grapple for it or something. Honestly, as is, it is a pretty nice setup. Wilson is right, an extension would make it [email protected] and stylish to behold, but really, the extra grip size from either the finger extension or the +1 extension outweigh the potential benefits for me. At least right now!
Oh, and +1 to RJ on the purpose of the P3-AT. If you have to reload a mousegun, you may be wasting valuable [email protected] time. Still, can't fault the "be prepared" ethic.
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If you ever need to do some house cleaning... ;DCHW111 said:
What type of extension is that grey one? (where to purchase)Wilson said:Sorry to read of your failing vision. When you get stronger glasses, feast your eyes on the finger extensions below. Even if they didn’t look ten times better, the additional control of that little hook would be sufficient to justify them over the 1+.
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A link to the NAA Guardian gray (black from the factory) grip extension (part #MZ-FPK) fits Kel-Tec magazines with minor alteration can be found here http://www.geocities.com/PocketGuns/P32ext.html .h2ojunkie said:
Wilson – who’s happy he can help keep North American Arms in business :
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Another kind:
http://www.e-gunparts.com/DisplayAd.asp?chrProductSKU=981590B&chrSuperSKU=981590&MC=
I have one and it does help my contol, especially weak-hand.
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http://www.e-gunparts.com/DisplayAd.asp?chrProductSKU=981590B&chrSuperSKU=981590&MC=
I have one and it does help my contol, especially weak-hand.
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I used to have the hook extensions, but removed them in favor of the +1 extension. I have not noticed a difference in my accuracy or pistol reliability with either, but I appreciate the extra round the +1 provides.
I've also heard/read of people having problems with the pinkie hook extensions and prematurely wearing out the magazine release button where it engages the steel mag body. Seems people put a lot of pressure on the hook and it really "slams" the magazine down under recoil causing undue stress on the polymer mag catch. I've since replaced my catches with metal ones and all's been well with the +1's.
I've also heard/read of people having problems with the pinkie hook extensions and prematurely wearing out the magazine release button where it engages the steel mag body. Seems people put a lot of pressure on the hook and it really "slams" the magazine down under recoil causing undue stress on the polymer mag catch. I've since replaced my catches with metal ones and all's been well with the +1's.
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I, personally, cannot see how the +1 extension would cause a snag hazard when drawing from a pocket...gpr said:
My average sized hands fully cover and extend well below the +1 extension when gripped in a pocket or firing position. My bottom three fingers almost touch my palm and the back of my hand completely covers the grip/magazine. Midgets might not agree...and people with "snaggy hands"
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Rustynuts said:
But, they would print more in a pocket than the +1 or pinkie hook extensions...
Welcome Finch! You ought to at least look through the thread that you are commenting on as this thread has a picture. But its not great so here is another:Finch said:
And because someone will ask, this is a www.concealmentconceptsholsters.com pocket pal in small!
-Scott
Hold your nose and hide one eye so you don’t get too ill, http://1bad69.com/keltec/p3at-fingerrest.htm (bottom of page).Finch said:
Wilson – who’s also know to give caster oil to small children
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