**UPDATED PICTURES**Recovered bullets ballistic

Discussion in 'P-3AT' started by YooperP3at, Apr 17, 2009.

  1. YooperP3at

    YooperP3at New Member

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    Oct 12, 2008
    Just for fun this morning...Went out and shot 4 different selfdefense rounds into a ballistic panel.
    The ballistic panel was an expired Second Chance Tri-Flex armor pac IIA.  5" x 8".  

    Rounds Used:
    Hornady 90gr XTP jhp
    Fed Hydra-shok 90gr jhp
    CorBon 90gr jhp
    Speer GoldDot 90gr jhp

    All four rounds were contained within the thin panel.  Only the Fed Hydra-shok traveled away from its entry hole.
    The CorBon expanded the most and had a more noticable impact on the panel.  The Gold Dot had the second stongest noticable impact.  Shot from approx. 2' away.  

    The CorBon expanded the flattest of the four.  The other three were approx. the same.
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  2. adamsesq

    adamsesq New Member

    Dec 25, 2006
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    Nice pics and good info. Just because I am confused why didn't you use the Corbon DPX which is the round specifically designed around the P3AT?

    -Scott
     

  3. Haku

    Haku New Member

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    Mar 29, 2009
    Texas
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    The DPX uses homogeneous copper alloy bullet with a large hollow cavity, how does an all copper bullet hold up? Is lead better? What about that new ammo from Hornaday the critical defense FTX?
     
  4. YooperP3at

    YooperP3at New Member

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    Oct 12, 2008
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    Those four rounds were all i had available...beside some fmj practice rounds.

    I currently carry the CorBons in the 380. Just got the box of GoldDots for possible carry in the future...Haven't shot them yet.

    The xtp's and the hydra-shok were my old carry rounds.

    It was either go out back and shoot those four rounds....or sit and watch tv. ;D

    From the impact of these four rounds....the CorBons caused the ballistic panel and the vest behind it to jump around the most. Definitly more of a whomp when it hit.
     
  5. joje

    joje New Member

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    Nov 1, 2007
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    thats interesting. amongst other rounds, i shot a 380 golden sabre at a level I flak vest awhile back. the kevlar stopped it, the nose was clogged with fiber and it hardly open up at all.

    not sure if the difference in results would be due to test setup or choice of cartridge. how did you have your panel set up? was it fixed against a hard backstop? i had my panel set up leaning against a rolled up towel that was standing on a table.
     
  6. YooperP3at

    YooperP3at New Member

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    Oct 12, 2008
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    The small ballistic panel was duct taped to a full size expired ballistic vest...and then leaned up against a dirt (mud) pile.
     
  7. nmshooter

    nmshooter New Member

    Jan 25, 2008
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    Thanks for the report and pics. Always good to see people reviewing bullets. :)
     
  8. CDW4ME

    CDW4ME New Member

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    Apr 6, 2009
    USA
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    Interesting. Thanks for sharing.
     
  9. frankmako

    frankmako New Member

    Mar 11, 2006
    Chattanooga TN
    Re: Recovered bullets from Ballistic panel  *Pict

    what would a fmj round look like?
     
  10. YooperP3at

    YooperP3at New Member

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    Oct 12, 2008
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    I'll shoot a FMJ next time out.....Maybe later today.

    I'll post the picture on this same page.
     
  11. Hunter11

    Hunter11 Member

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    Dec 28, 2008
    Texas
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    Thanks for sharing your results. I use the Speer Gold Dots in my PF-9 and the wife's LCP for CC and it looks like they will work fine.
     
  12. YooperP3at

    YooperP3at New Member

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    Oct 12, 2008
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    You just gota remember that these rounds were shot into a ballistic panel..
    The bullets react different when hitting kevlar. They fold in...instead of expanding out.

    Heading out to the property now...I will post some more pics tonight.
     
  13. YooperP3at

    YooperP3at New Member

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    Oct 12, 2008
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    OK.....Here is the FMJ pictures that you asked for.

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    #1 - .22 40gr solid rn
    #2 - .380 Blazer 95gr fmj round nose
    #3 - .380 Winchester 95gr fmj flat nose
    #4 - .38 spec 148gr wadcutter
    #5 - 9mm Winchester 115gr fmj
    #6 - .40 American Eagle 180gr fmj
    #7 - .357 Winchester 158gr JHP

    For the .380 's The flat nose mushroomed...The round nose only slightly flattened.

    NOTE:!!!! None of these seven rounds penetrated the small ballistic panel. No holes in the ballistic vest behind it.
    But it sure did jump around alot.!!!
     
  14. tweed

    tweed New Member

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    Nov 15, 2008
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    Thanks for adding that... I was about to. Pretty pictures.