1. P3AT, 6-round mag installed, 2nd mag, twelve Win 95-gr. FMJ cartridges, concealment concepts pocket holster with mag pocket: 14.7 oz 2. S&W M&P 340 (lightweight .357 mag) c/w Crimson Tech laser sight, speedloader, ten Speer 38+P 135 gr. GDSB-JHP cartridges, Mika pocket holster: 20.7 oz. FWIW--the 340 package will fit in most jean's front pockets but with the speedloader in another pocket; the P3AT package complete fits in a hip pocket. I carry the S&W daily--and will probably carry the P3AT package once it's broken in and is demonstrated to be reliable. If I gain enough confidence, I'll carry it as a primary after I put an Armalaser on it. The ten rounds of 38+P are more appealing to me than the twelve rounds of .380. Both cartridges run about 900 fps, and the GDSB 135-gr. 38+P JHPs are a favorite with the j-frame carry crowd. Jim H.