[tal35]

Called and tried to contact someone to buy an extra CMR barrel. Thinking of possibly doing a SBR and wanted to have one if I do. They won't sell a CMR barrel! Not really sure why?
I havent had any of my CMR rifles apart yet, are the barrels much different than the PMR style? Was anyone else able to buy a barrel from them? Anyone doing (making CMR barrels replacement?)

I'm a great customer of theirs 5 PMR, 4 CMR, RFB,Sub2000 40 , 32acp backup etc.

 

[haugrdr]

Is the serial number on the barrel somewhere?

They won't and CAN'T sell the serial-numbered part of a firearm...because that IS the firearm.

 

[tal35]

No, the s/n is behind the grip on the frame, nothing on the barrel!

 

[cobrasc3]

The only reason I could see that they would not sell parts for the CMR is that they need each of them for a rifle. So selling a barrel means 1 less rifle to be built. Until they start getting caught up on the back orders of the CMR, I am sure it would be very difficult to get any parts. I know there was a person who got some parts, not a barrel, but some parts and I am sure that was pure luck and probably won't happen again in quite some time. As far as after market parts. Nothing yet. But I think Tandem Cross is supposed to be making some kind of announcement at some point. But I am not holding my breathe as it seems the issues with the CMR have slowed the demand for the rifle. I mean you have 4 of them. Not sure why. But to each their own. Maybe take the barrel from 1 of them and maybe someday you will be able to replace it. I have my CMR in lay-a-way at Cabelas. They actually had three in stock. I couldn't believe it. Way easier to get than my PMR for sure.And I paid less than MSRP!

 

[jonnin]

I know you can get custom barrels but its going to cost you more than the gun did to do that. If you have 4, as noted, just use one for now and buy one in a couple of years.

 

[flareside_ford]

I'm of the mindset that if I was going to build an SBR and pay the $200 tax, the gun will always be an SBR so why put a barrel longer than 16" on it.

 

[AJ_Dual]

I'm of the mindset that if I was going to build an SBR and pay the $200 tax, the gun will always be an SBR so why put a barrel longer than 16" on it.

Because you're losing a significant amount of the ballistic advantage with the shorter barrel. Even SBR'd, it's still obviously more than from a PMR30, but maybe sometimes you want all you can get. Having the option to switch back would give you that.

Is the serial number on the barrel somewhere?

They won't and CAN'T sell the serial-numbered part of a firearm...because that IS the firearm.

No. Only the receiver of a long gun, or the frame/receiver of a pistol is "the firearm" and has to go through an FFL etc. in interstate commerce under U.S. law. And is the part that must have a SN under the GCA '68. They can SN the barrel 10 ways come Sunday, and it's still just a barrel. Mail-order to your door. (there could be exceptions like some design where the barrel/receiver are 100% integral to one another and can't be separated, but even then it's the receiver that counts.)

Keltec may have their own (good, from their point of view) reasons for not selling barrel assemblies, but whatever it is, it's not a legal/regulatory one.

 

[flareside_ford]

Because you're losing a significant amount of the ballistic advantage with the shorter barrel. Even SBR'd, it's still obviously more than from a PMR30, but maybe sometimes you want all you can get. Having the option to switch back would give you that.



No. Only the receiver of a long gun, or the frame/receiver of a pistol is "the firearm" and has to go through an FFL etc. in interstate commerce under U.S. law. And is the part that must have a SN under the GCA '68. They can SN the barrel 10 ways come Sunday, and it's still just a barrel. Mail-order to your door. (there could be exceptions like some design where the barrel/receiver are 100% integral to one another and can't be separated, but even then it's the receiver that counts.)

Keltec may have their own (good, from their point of view) reasons for not selling barrel assemblies, but whatever it is, it's not a legal/regulatory one.

True but the op would have 3 other CMR30's that are full length. From what I remember from another thread on here the barrels aren't super easy to change. I don't think it is something you want to do at the range or even on a daily basis.

 

[haugrdr]

No. Only the receiver of a long gun, or the frame/receiver of a pistol is "the firearm" and has to go through an FFL etc. in interstate commerce under U.S. law. And is the part that must have a SN under the GCA '68. They can SN the barrel 10 ways come Sunday, and it's still just a barrel. Mail-order to your door. (there could be exceptions like some design where the barrel/receiver are 100% integral to one another and can't be separated, but even then it's the receiver that counts.)

Keltec may have their own (good, from their point of view) reasons for not selling barrel assemblies, but whatever it is, it's not a legal/regulatory one.

Check where the serial number is on the new gen2 sub2000.

On the bolt tube. And they've stated they can't sell them for that reason.

Even the parts list in the owners manual calls the bolt tube the "receiver (exchange only. )"

So...keeping that in mind, with a CMR---exactly what metal part has the serial number on it. It can't be the grip half...it's plastic. Right?

 

[haugrdr]

I thinkit's part #203 that is actually engraved with the serial number...it's called the "frame" in the parts list.

If so, maybe that shoots down my idea that KT won't sell a barrel because of a serial number being on it. Unless the frame is part of the barrel assembly, which the parts list doesn't support.

Anyone have any thoughts?

 

[H2OMAN]

Yep, it is the frame #203 contained within the grip assembly #1603 that has the serial number printed on it.

 

[AJ_Dual]

Check where the serial number is on the new gen2 sub2000.

On the bolt tube. And they've stated they can't sell them for that reason.

Even the parts list in the owners manual calls the bolt tube the "receiver (exchange only. )"

So...keeping that in mind, with a CMR---exactly what metal part has the serial number on it. It can't be the grip half...it's plastic. Right?

That's because the bolt tube is the receiver, at least legally, in this case. KT could have gotten the ATF approval to actually call the polymer receiver-receiver the "receiver" but the problem there is the ATF has some extra strict regs regarding SN markings for polymer, and that it has to be a metal tag that's implanted like under the dust-cover fore-end of the frame on a Glock or HK USP. And embedding that bit of metal to the ATF's satisfaction probably incurs a significant cost to the molding and tooling.

And other KT pistols, like the P11, PF9 or the P32, the separate slide-rail frame assembly that fits inside the grip frame is the "receiver", which is why you can actually buy replacement, or different colored grip-frames mail-order when Keltec decides to make a run of them.

Other firearms, you can see where the ATF has been inconsistent for whatever "technical" reasons. Like the FAL, where the upper receiver is the registered SN part, but on an AR it's the lower.

 

[Bonish_Photo]

When I first got mine, I called and asked the same thing and was told point blank, "We do not sell ANY extra parts for the CMR."

If anyone finds any aftermarket options, please post a link

 

[H2OMAN]

Called and tried to contact someone to buy an extra CMR barrel. Thinking of possibly doing a SBR and wanted to have one if I do.

Buy another CMR and SBR one of them.