Time to get a P3AT but... Update- Probs w/ pistol

Re: Time to get a P3AT but...

Hi Sparx,

The P3AT and PF-9 while they share many of the same design features are not the same internally.  The PF-9 in design is in essence a scaled up P-32, and the P3AT doesn't have a hold open.  I do not know why there is not a hold open on the P3AT, I do know that the Taurus TCP which is slightly larger does have one, but tend to have more operating problems than the P3AT.  My guess is that Kel-tec engineering a larger cartridge in the same frame left it out for better reliability.

The 32 ACP and 380 Auto have roughly the same stopping power in FMJ ammo the 380 Auto has a greater frontal area, but the 32 ACP tends to tumble like a rifle bullet causing more tissue damage, making both rounds roughly equal.  I wasn't until ammunition makers started using new technology on 380 JHP's that it gained an edge.  The newest genration of Corbon DPX in 32 ACP should narrow that edge as the OAL should be long enough to negate the rimlock issue, but offer comparable performance to the 380 Auto.  Regardless of what is said though, there is a greater selection of ammo for the P3AT in 380 Auto.

Acraglassing P3AT extensions to a  PF-9 magazine will not work.  The OAL of the 9X19MM Luger Parabellum round is significantly different than the 380 Auto (9X17MM Corto) by almost 0.2" jams and mis-feeds would happen with the PF-9.  I hope the info is helpful.  Best Wishes:

 

Re: Time to get a P3AT but...

I'm hopeful but waiting to see third party gel/clay testing results.

Peace favor your sword,
Kirk

 

Re: Got new P3at today some questions

Welcome to P3AT ownership,

If you are asking about the "fluff and buff", it's up to you. Some people do it and some don't. From my limited experience, there doesn't seem to be much difference in the ultimate performance of the pistol. I've had two 2 Generations P3AT's and the only thing I did with my first one was clean it and shoot it, rinse and repeat. I never had much trouble to speak of with it, aside from the rounds not completely chambering when I first loaded the pistol and racked the slide, but that eventually resolved as the result of using the gun. The second one, the one I currently own and carry, I did the complete Fluff and Buff, and I think it simply breaks the gun in just a little faster, not to mention a little less expensively than running four or five boxes of ammo through it to accomplish the same end product, a pistol you can depend on to function properly.

Either way, the pistol out of the box needs some breaking in before you want to carry it for self defense purposes, just as you would with the PF9.

I agree with you, and think the locking slide would be nice. Many of us have wished for a slide which would stay locked back after the last round.

Not positive about the build date on yours but mine is KQxxx and it was manufactured in March 2010 according to something I found, but I can't remember where I saw it.

Hope that helps.

Good luck.

 

Re: Got new P3at today some questions

How much was the ammo at Walmart?

 

Re: Got new P3at today some questions

" How much was the ammo at Walmart? "

here in NC there $32.00 for 100 WWB



" I wanted to know if anyone here has a date of manufacturer scheme. My gun is: KRQ9x. "

I called KT nad was told mine KQXxx was made in may 2010 and shipped in june 2010

 

Re: Got new P3at today some questions

Hey Sparx,

On the failure to extract, try to tighten the allen screw on the right side of the pistol. that screw holds the extractor and the firing pin in place and as such they have a tendency to work loose. if it becomes loose, you'll start to experience failures to extract. try some blue loctite and tighten it up with a 2mm allen wrench. just be careful not to over tighten the screw. This should hopefully take care of your problems.

Good luck,

 

Re: New P3at today Report DAY TWO-Extraction Prob

When you say failure to extract, you mean it's leaving fired casings in the chamber?

 

Re: New P3at today Report DAY TWO-Extraction Prob

yep, thats it, FTE

 

Re: Time to get a P3AT but...

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