If you are locked and loaded 24/7, how long do you go before you give the magazine spring a rest and use a backup? After buying my p-32, I bought 2 additional 7 round and 1 10 round magazine to use for this purpose. And yes I tested the mags before reliability.
Time between p-32 magazines carried?
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I've carried mine everyday day for 2 years along with my glock 27 and never once had a mag problem. Every 6 months I'll shoot the ammo I've been carrying and put new ammo in the mags but never had a mag issue.
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Absolutely never. The whole "springs need a rest" thing hasn't been true for steel springs since...oh, let's say the Kennedy Administration. Probably earlier.
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While no spring issues in a good quality mag. it's still a good idea (IMO- IF you pocket carry) to blow out the pocket fuzz, lint, chewing tobacco etc. once a month w compressed air.
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Oh, I do that. Remove and clean the firing pin channel and take the mag apart. Amazing how much stuff comes from your pocket.
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Every three months I rotate the magazines in my carry and home protection guns. Can't hurt.
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It's not unheard of for some lucky dude to find a loaded 1911 in grand-daddy's drawer which has been loaded but not fired in 60 years yet cycles just fine.
I own a WWII era Astra 400 with original magazine springs. Works just fine.
You are completely correct when you say that it's not a problem. Properly engineered and manufactured compression springs simply don't wear out from being in a state of compression. What wears them out is cycles of compression and release.
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Along the same line...my dad gave me 12 loaded 1911 mags, loaded with original Korean War type ball ammo. He told me that these mags had been loaded since he got home from Korea/Japan.
This was in 1985 that he gave them to me, they'd been fully loaded since spring of 1953. 32 years.
And like a dumbass, I promptly took them to the range and shot the mags out. They worked, fed and fired perfectly.
I have the mags, use them all the time. But I wish I hadn't shot them out. Kinda ruined the keepsake value a bit.
This was in 1985 that he gave them to me, they'd been fully loaded since spring of 1953. 32 years.
And like a dumbass, I promptly took them to the range and shot the mags out. They worked, fed and fired perfectly.
I have the mags, use them all the time. But I wish I hadn't shot them out. Kinda ruined the keepsake value a bit.
I guess I just have a phobia that the mags will malfunction at the wrong time. But everyone's comment make me feel more confident in the magazines. One other question, do you normally load your magazines with 7 rounds, or 6 plus one the tube?
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Full magazine and one in the chamber. I also keep my carry guns fully loaded all the time unless I'm cleaning them or something.
The possibility of magazine failure is a great reason to carry a spare, or several. I always carry two reloads for my carry guns.
The possibility of magazine failure is a great reason to carry a spare, or several. I always carry two reloads for my carry guns.
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As an engineer, I concur with the prevailing sentiment that storing a spring in a compressed state does not wear it out, but cycling it does (eventually).
I have the +1 extension in my mags, so I keep 8+1 in the gun. No reason to leave spare capacity empty.
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I keep a record of every trip to the range. Date, gun, ammo used, Magazine number (yes I mark my mags), number of rounds fired, failures or unusual events. I have a two guns that have ONLY failed when I loaded a full magazine plus one in the chamber. Overall reliability is still equal to or greater than 99%, but if I never tried a full mag plus one, the guns would be 100% reliable. I never add the plus one. If I'm worried about not having enough rounds, I carry a spare mag. One man's opinion.
Your reply makes me think I have been concerned about nothing. All the great advice from all the forum members makes me more comfortable. This is my first Keltec pistol that I have bought, and was a little concerned about the materials used and construction. But the pistol working flawlessly and no issues has given me more confidence. Now I can carry with confidence.
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Greg Ellifritz, who runs the Active Response Training site, has said that he's seen the P32 run much more reliably than the P3AT in his classes. My P32 sits in the armrest of my vehicle, with two extra magazines.
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