[rogue66]

So I had a bad day at the range today. 50 rounds of CCI 40 grain TMJ and 50 rounds of some new Winchester Super X 40 grain.

I had way too many failure to feed problems. I noticed the rear of the round would be stuck down so it could not line up with the barrel to feed.

After coming home I began looking for the problem. I massaged the feed ramp with some fine sandpaper, but really didn't see the ramp had an problems.

After watching the slide action slowly over and over again, I finally realized the problem was the magazine. The rear of the round would not "pop" up and out of the magazine, requiring you to pull back on the slide again to get it out.

Yes, they are loaded correctly.

So, I worked on filing the magazine where the rim is release into the gun. I widened the slot and pulled it back toward the other end. After a great deal of trial and error (taking small bites), I got them where I can slowly work the slide and the round pops up and feeds like butter.

On a side note, this also helped my manual ejection problem. My extractors were losing the round 3/4 of the way back. Now the next round is coming up quicker which is not allowing the spent case to drop, keeping the round suspended long enough to be ejected!

Two for the price of one.

 

[RBP]

Thanks for the insight, I have 2 PMR 30's and one eats everything the other is getting better but had to work on the ramp seemed better but after a magazine or to would fail to feed and sometimes jam a little just racking a round, I will be looking closer at my magazines after your post, thanks

 

[stash45]

Rogue66 - any photos or drawings of what you've don't to your mags?

 

[850sub]

Rogue66 - any photos or drawings of what you've don't to your mags?

Yes. This.
How Did you modify the mag lips. You widened the gap and pulled it back to the other end? Which end? I think you are referring to the "rim window" as referenced in the manual? Also note that most .22 is really filthy. The mags could be just dirty.?

 

[rogue66]

Will post pics after my next range visit. I want to verify (again) that what I have done has improved the operation.

I shot about 50 rounds Saturday and was very happy

My mags are clean. I have disassembled, cleaned and buffed them about a million times now . I have four mags, so I'm working on duplicating the efforts on each.

Ammo is too scarce and expensive to waste! But that's another story...

 

[rogue66]

Here ya go. I just ran through 15 rounds of Fiocchi 40 grain TMJ and it ran like a top! Very happy with the results.

As you can see, I've pulled back the large opening allowing the rim to clear sooner. I pulled back the front tab some as well, but I would not advise it. Start with the rim window.

The Fiocchi looks just like the CCI and I found it locally for 12.99. It is smooth from top to bottom which I believe helps the PMR. Some of the other ammo I've tried have too many indention's.

 

[tjfla]

Very interesting! Thanks for the info. I will have to keep this in mind if I see any similar problems.

 

[JBinDC]

Here ya go. I just ran through 15 rounds of Fiocchi 40 grain TMJ and it ran like a top! Very happy with the results.

As you can see, I've pulled back the large opening allowing the rim to clear sooner. I pulled back the front tab some as well, but I would not advise it. Start with the rim window.

The Fiocchi looks just like the CCI and I found it locally for 12.99. It is smooth from top to bottom which I believe helps the PMR. Some of the other ammo I've tried have too many indention's.

Whoa, that's a LOT of material hogged out of there! Thank you for your info. If I'm brave enough to hack into mine, I hope to stop having my own similar FTF FTE issues. The mags were so damned expensive, I'm almost afraid to even drop them! I myself have 3, so I guess the least I could do is try this on one. For a while I was thinking it was a spring tensioning issue.

Thanks for the help! --JB

 

[Hoothrewpoo]

Interesting idea. Did you just grind the opening with a dremel?

 

[P3B727L1011]

Here ya go. I just ran through 15 rounds of Fiocchi 40 grain TMJ and it ran like a top! Very happy with the results.

As you can see, I've pulled back the large opening allowing the rim to clear sooner. I pulled back the front tab some as well, but I would not advise it. Start with the rim window.

The Fiocchi looks just like the CCI and I found it locally for 12.99. It is smooth from top to bottom which I believe helps the PMR. Some of the other ammo I've tried have too many indention's.

Didn't see the pictures with the post

 

[Percevel]

yeah it looks like the picture link is dead.

 

[mbogo]

He might have deleted the photos or the link expired.

 

[rogue66]

It did not fix the problem. It helped for a few rounds and I thought it was a cure, but ultimately the gun went back to Kel-Tec (twice).

 

[P3B727L1011]

Fails to Feed

Guess mine needs to go back as well. Can you tell me how that process works since I have never had to return one?

 

[rogue66]

Call them and they'll send a call tag. You can also create an account on their website and create your own ticket

 

[barnstormer37]

multiple FTF's

90 rounds, at least four, maybe as high as six FTF's. I sure would not want to have to trust this thing to protect me and/or mine from a bad guy.
I have three mags and it looks like most of the FTF's are because the rimmed end of the cartridge is hung up, won't "pop" up into alignment with the barrel.

I don't see how to get to the pics of the modification, would like to see the modification.

 

[rogue66]

It did not work. You might as well send the gun back to Kel-Tec if your having FTF's.

 

[mark40]

P-32 malfunction

Does G
Kel-Tec usually pay for shipping if you need to send it back for warranty????

 

[850sub]

Does G
Kel-Tec usually pay for shipping if you need to send it back for warranty????

Not usually....

 

[rogue66]

They did on mine, twice...