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This thing:
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Shoots flying insects dead with a pinch of salt.
I HATE flying insects!
First modifications:

Since mine isn't going to be around children EVER the auto-safety is a nuisance.
Whenever the gun is fired, the safety springs back into the "on" (safe) position.
Not good for quick follow-up shots because the safety isn't intuitive.
The most damning thing is, when the safety is released it cannot put back into the safe position without shooting it:mad:.
The only 2 mods I saw on You-Tube disabled the safety completely. We don't have to do that.
Perhaps it would be better if it worked like the safety on every other gun on the PLANET!
Easy to do. (this is not a step-by-step how-to).
A small magnetic phillips screwdriver is essential.
Remove the pump handgrip and all of the screws holding the right half on.
You'll see the pesky spring and the safety clicker-bar with its return spring:
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Remove all of the safety parts so it looks like this:
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If we put the safety back in, it will flop around so we make a fiber-washer out of thin cardboard to make it slightly "stiff":
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Install the safety and tighten the screw until it moves a little stiff.
Reassemble the other parts leaving out only the clicker bar, it's return spring, and the "pesky spring":
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I made the washer a little large so it can be seen in photos. It doesn't need to be this big:
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The safety will now work like ones on real guns.

One other thing bugged me (pun:D). The red nose for the muzzle is a loose fit and can move around and interfere with the shot stream:
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So I opened it up with a 9/32" drill bit:
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I wanted to retain the red nose so some neanderthal (not LE), doesn't mistake it for something "real":rolleyes:.

Next are the built-in batteries, laser, and pressure switch:eek::D.
 

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Blake, is there any chance you could post a picture showing the internals? I've gotten into tinkering on Nerf blasters recently and am interested on whether this could be modified to fire Nerf darts.
 

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Blake, is there any chance you could post a picture showing the internals? I've gotten into tinkering on Nerf blasters recently and am interested on whether this could be modified to fire Nerf darts.
I doubt seriously it will have the volume of air to do much with those. Even if it did, it would be a pretty-expensive Nerf gun.

I was amazed at the brilliant design work when I opened it up.
The "loader" does not bring the 'shot' into the chamber until it actually fires.
If it did sooner, when it was pointed down, all of the 'shot' would tumble out of the barrel:eek:.
The chamber is actually completely obstructed by the loader when it begins the fire sequence and the chamber section of the loader is in the shot-cup filling up on the forward motion of the pump slide:
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Before firing:
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As the piston moves forward pressure builds and the chamber section in the loader is yanked down into the chamber and the obstructed chamber is replaced with the shot load.
At fired position:
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This gives it more of a pop than a whoosh.

I just had to know what :quote:caliber:quote: it was, and sure enough....
it's exactly .177" Text Yellow Font
where have I heard that before?
 

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Wow! Thanks for the great write up on the inner workings of this insectoid exterminator. It really looks like they put a good amount of thought into the design. I figured they were just some other gimmicky gizmo. It does look like a good product.
 

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Blake, is there any chance you could post a picture showing the internals? I've gotten into tinkering on Nerf blasters recently and am interested on whether this could be modified to fire Nerf darts.
I didn't want to completely disassemble mine, but I found a picture that shows it taken down to the piston:
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It's pretty complicated but the secret is the 2:1 rack and pinion that cuts the cocking effort in half to set the powerful spring that drives the piston.
This is the regular 2.0 with the smaller shot loader.

Edit: And since I love high-speed camera footage:D... watch the legs come off:eek::
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OMG:eek:, they have blood!
I have some 30-40 grit garnet and some 46 grit Aluminum oxide media coming Line Font
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GET SOME!!!
 

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Discussion Starter · #7 · (Edited)
I just had to know what :quote:caliber:quote: it was, and sure enough....
it's exactly .177" View attachment 28495 where have I heard that before?
*WARNING* The intentional misuse of a product not in accordance with manufacturer instructions is dangerous!
(or fun:D)

I got to thinking about that magic number .177 , which the barrel bore on the BAS is Text Yellow Font
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Sure enough, a Daisy BB is .172" - .173".
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It can shoot slugs!:eek:

Since the loader blocks the chamber when the gun is cocked, if a BB is dropped down the barrel it stops right in front of the loader.
It exits the barrel with enough force to travel thru one side of a standard cardboard box but not exit the other side (which is Waaay more power than my BB gun pistol has).
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"you'll put your eye out!"---->;)

(let's see now, a bunch of BB's in plastic-friendly grease, and a wooden skewer ramrod? That'll do it Font
Muzzle-loader BB-gun!)

Edit: Oooooh, now I remember:).....
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Discovered that the gen 1.0 had a steel lined barrel bore.:headstratch:
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It was not necessary as salt is not very abrasive but is corrosive.
A plastic bore is better for salt.
Now, if you were using steel BB's or abrasive blast media as ammo, a steel one would be better Text Yellow Font
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I thought, well just buy a BB gun:cool:.
Clearly I have not been shopping in a long while. This is only $55:

Red-Green, 4-reticle reflex sight.....$19:eek::
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And here's the price you pay for getting your stuff made in China...
A bazillion counterfeits made by the same company and sold out the back door to the rest of the world that you don't make a dime on:mad:
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Great.
Now I'm eating the ammo:eek:.

I have discovered I LOVE Kosher Coarse salt on Everything!
Not only is it salty, it's crunchy!

Also have a mint-condition, "unobtainable", discontinued, 1.0 with metal lined barrel, on the way Line Font
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Plan to do a side-by-side comparison of the internals to follow the evolution of the design. Much to be learned.
Will probably build 2 custom guns for different purposes.
 

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Discussion Starter · #11 · (Edited)
I have some 30-40 grit garnet and some 46 grit Aluminum oxide media coming.
GET SOME!!!
Oh MaGawd! The garnet is almost too beautiful to shoot!
A beautiful rose-purple color. Better pix coming.
The AL-OX is pure white as the driven snow, indistinguishable from table salt except it is REALLY heavy. Can I shop or what!:cool:. No chunks in any of it which would be really bad for the loader.
Garnet: the 10lbs is noticeably smaller because it is even more dense:eek:.
I bet it will flat-out ****up some major bugs! (messup:rolleyes:)

So who else bought 50,000 rounds of ammo this week:D?
I did:rayof:.
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Blake, no offense or anything but you are one totally one messed up individual! ;)
I can see it now in the future of addiction help centers, "I am a bug assault user and I have a problem!" :D
 

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Blake, no offense or anything but you are one totally one messed up individual! ;)
I can see it now in the future of addiction help centers, "I am a bug assault user and I have a problem!" :D
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(abrasive media pun:D)

Check this out: Measured density tests.
When does HD mean something other than "Home Defense"?
When it also means "High-Density":D
I measured the difference in the density of the media I have gathered together.
I was bragging about the AL-OX and Garnet being much heavier.
How heavy?

Tare weight of the container is 20 grams. We subtract that out.
Each measurement was made with the container smoothed off level full at the top.

H20 (water)................. 168g - 20g = 148g = 1.00 SD.
NACL (salt) ..................204g - 20g = 184g = 1.24 SD.
AL-OX (aluminum oxide) 294g - 20g = 274g = 1.85 SD.
Garnet (Garnet Baby!!!!) 316g - 20g = 296g = 2.00 SD.
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To quote a famous movie: "Wait 'till they get a load of me!"
 

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I can hear it now, BLM ( bug lives matter ) just wait some liberal will find out about the bug a salt , and call for it to be banned. :D
 

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Do they have a version that will penetrate a snail shell?
See post #7. When it fires a BB it definitely will. Easily would kill a mouse.
The inventor was very careful selecting salt for ammo so it wouldn't break any dishes but still kill flies.
We're only going to use salt for houseflies.
The HD stuff for everything else.
I can't wait for the first live-fire test on red wasp:eek:.

Maybe Blake can test his out on them with the different types of media his has and give us a report back on it.
Oh, it's coming. I don't have any snail shells handy, but something to give us an idea of "knockdown-power" is in the works:D.

@FLT: Bug lives matter:laugh2:. I'm sure they will just want you to buy a $200 stamp:rolleyes:.
Gotta love the definition of "Any" Other Weapon.
 

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The garnet is almost too beautiful to shoot!
A beautiful rose-purple color. Better pix coming.
Garnet media:
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;)
It's even not as expensive as the AL-OX.
One side benefit of the 'abrasive media' is it has sharp edges, unlike the neat cubes of table-salt.
Going to try to get micro-pics of the grains.
 

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One side benefit of the 'abrasive media' is it has sharp edges, unlike the neat cubes of table-salt. Going to try to get micro-pics of the grains.
First of all, taking pictures like this is REALLY HARD!
To understand how this weapon works on small insects, you have to get down!
Down to their scale.
As near as I can tell the terminal effects of table-salt out of this gun must be the "blunt-force" trauma of the shot load and the ripping of legs and wings off.

I want more:mad:. I want penetration!
I thought table salt was nice cubes. No, it isn't.
It's rounded. Here it is from a fly's point of view, table-salt:
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Much too, umm, humane:rolleyes:. Looks like effing-marshmallows:mad:.

Maybe we should blast them with their equivalent of broken glass shards instead, AL-OX:
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That's gotta hurt!:eek:

For the ones wearing body-armor, heavier sharp rock shrapnel, Garnet:
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Look close at those daggers and spike-balls!
Everything about them is sharp and harder than glass.
I pity the bug soaking those up!:eek:

Edit: Oh, for scale, here's Lincoln sitting on his chair in the Lincoln Memorial on the back of a penny:eek:.
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