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What is your favorite thing about the SU-16.

I absolute love the fact that it ejects spent cases about 4 feet away in a neat little pile at about 3 o'clock.

I wish all semi auto rifles did this.

I had a Milled receiver Arsenal AK in .223 and it would launch the spent case as far as it did the bullets. My AR's launch brass too but not as far as that Arsenal.
 

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Ditto on the weight! Mine as a Side Mounted Sling and a TRS 25 Red Dot and weighs 6 lbs 1 oz with two loaded mags in the buttstock.

It also folds in half so it will fit in a back pack if you are running but not under threat.

I like my gun best with 20 round Pmags. It handles best with those so in addition to the 2 in the buttstock 4 of the 20 rounders would give you 100 rounds in your load out which should be enough to get you where you're going.

Another good thing is the compatibility with ARs in Magazines and ammo. You're more likely to find that stuff laying around than anything else besides possibly AK ammo.

This gun was made for the Bugout! I've seen nothing else that is even close to the SU16 for this specific purpose.

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I'm a new owner of this weapon (about 2 week) and I like everything about it, or I wouldn't have bought it. The weight, the fact that it takes AR mags, and is so reliable is what I like, and why I bought it! Looking for great shooting with this "black" rifle!
I bought the Keltec sling kit and can't figure out how this works on the C model. I checked Youtube and no vids yet..
 

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I like my SU16CA for all the reasons above plus it has a lifetime warrenty. I have shot about 1k rounds and only clean it ever 2 or 3 range trips or sooner if I shoot the really dirty stuff, Turkish Ammo I got for $240 @1k rounds plus free shipping. It was so cheap that I bought 2K or it and it is dirty but shoots good. I also have a PAR by Troy and a home built AR, where I started with an 80% lower and they all shoot the Turkey dirty stuff great, just have to do a really through cleaning. I like the bipod and the mag storage plus the Picatinny rail. Good Rifle and California Legal, for the moment.
 

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I thought 20rd mags weren't legal in CA? ;) ;)
Technically if you had a standard capacity magazine before 2000 you were allowed to keep it as "pre-ban".

But with Proposition 63, most Californians are not allowed to posses any standard capacity magazine, no matter when it was acquired. These magazines must be disposed of by July 2017.

So it is possible that those magazines are completely legal today.
 

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Blake: Thanks for exposing me to the NSA, now I'll have to run and hide!

Mine will probably get moved to Las Vegas, But I have a bunch of 10 round P Mags that I can run really efficiently. I use the KT Mags in the buttstock as the Pmags don't have the detent dimple in them to hold them in place.

Also when I shoot this gun out of state it gets the 20 round mags.

Randy
 

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Blake: Thanks for exposing me to the NSA, now I'll have to run and hide!
Your gun & mags perfectly legal with the NSA.
Now, the Union of Soviet Socialist State of California, who knows:rolleyes:.
I don't think even the police know what's legal and what's not. The laws are so full of doublespeak it's almost like: "if we think it's illegal, then it is":mad:.
At least you have two states to play in:);).
 

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I don't think even the police know what's legal and what's not. The laws are so full of doublespeak it's almost like: "if we think it's illegal, then it is":mad:.
Enforcement would be a pain, which is why non-compliance rates with firearm restrictions are usually fairly high.

For example, I run "10/30" PMAGs in my SU-16, which are 10 round magazines but have the full-sized body (better for facilitating rapid removal in my opinion). You would have to have each 10/30 magazine checked to make sure there are no 30/30 magazines hiding in there.

As a practical matter, most firearm laws are applied as enhancements; you do something else wrong and then they find a firearm violation and tack that on.
 

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Enforcement would be a pain, which is why non-compliance rates with firearm restrictions are usually fairly high.

For example, I run "10/30" PMAGs in my SU-16, which are 10 round magazines but have the full-sized body (better for facilitating rapid removal in my opinion). You would have to have each 10/30 magazine checked to make sure there are no 30/30 magazines hiding in there.

As a practical matter, most firearm laws are applied as enhancements; you do something else wrong and then they find a firearm violation and tack that on.
What this guy said. Nobody is enforcing these BS Laws and I have been told that by several Sheriffs Deputies. No Sheriff wants to send his guys into harms way to confiscate somebodies guns. How do you think that would go over in East LA or South Central LA. You'd be walking into a gunfight sure as hell.

They pass these laws to scare people into submission. Supposedly we are to hand in all of our Mags by July 1,,, However you can't have a law that requires you to give up a Legally Owned Product without compensation.

Compliance with these laws will be nearly zero! They will tack them onto Bank Robberies etc.

Randy

Watch this ,,, It pretty much shows what our Legislators in SAC are all about.

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Z6Dj8tdSC1A[/ame]
 

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When I got my Charlie in '08, just ahead of the Obama election, I was looking for an inexpensive 5.56 carbine that took AR mags. The light weight and folding stock of the SU16C was a bonus.
 

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Honestly, after all these years owning one, it comes down to two [ :D ] best things:

Highest capacity of ammunition stored integrally within the firearm

[The fact that I live 15 minutes away from the Cocoa plant], if something breaks, I drive in and they'll fit it. I don't shoot reloads, don't shoot steel cases, and don't do mag dumps. As long as you're the original owner, they can repair anything short of a full KB. I've only had to take it in twice in its life, one was human error, one was the operating rod loosened by itself.



What I really hate about it....

Cleaning the bore, theres just no easy way of going about it. Reminds me of my days cleaning peoples 10/22 for a fee. and why I sold all my 10/22s and bought 10/22 Take downs when they came out. SOOOO MUCH EASIER :p
 

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So MANY things I like about my SU16-CA........

1) Light weight (REALLY light see #4)
2) Easy point and shoot
3) Folds
4) Threaded barrel
5) 6 rds in each magazine in the stock for better balance and emergency rds if needed.
6) Takes all AR mags i've tried so far in a little over 360 rds.

So far the Kel-Tec mags have worked fine for me but I find better use as a weight for the stock. I've tried up to 10 rds each and ended up at 6 each , still light but has some weight if that makes sense? Overall i'm really impressed with this rifle , more than I thought I would be.
 
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