Saw one at the LGS yesterday. Didn't handle it at all, but man, that thing sure is itty-bitty. Almost ... not quite, but ALMOST looks smaller than the P365. Definitely in the same size group, though, and a bit smaller in height/length than a Shield, from what I could see. I forget what the price was right off hand, but I'm pretty sure it was under $500, which makes it good competition against the (grossly overpriced) P365 and Hellcat ... although I'd still rather have the Shield Plus, myself. It'll be even more impressive if the little boogers actually function reliably, too.