[82boy]

HI Everyone.
I just bought a P3AT, and I put a box of Sellier and Bellot throught it. The gun functions great. The only problem is the way this thing ejects shells. It throws them up and back, but not like autos I have had before. The gun was throwing shells on the roof, of the shelter house I was standing infront of. When I shot inside the shelter house they was bouncing off the celing. Is this normal?

 

[JFB]

...Is this normal?

yes

 

[Bilbo]

It throws them up ...

I noted this also but not a concern for me.  Question, does this also cause a "flat" on the spent casing?  The flat I see looks like the same shape and size as the square tab on the top-rear of the barrel.  My buddy reloads and pointed this out to me.

 

[haugrdr]

[quote author=82boy link=1300656036/0#0 date=1300656036] It throws them up ...

I noted this also but not a concern for me.  Question, does this also cause a "flat" on the spent casing?  The flat I see looks like the same shape and size as the square tab on the top-rear of the barrel.  My buddy reloads and pointed this out to me.
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Yup, pretty normal for a dent to be in the spent casing...maybe 70% of mine have the same dent.

 

[82boy]

I also get the dent in the case. Well good to know that this is normal. Thanks guys.

 

[billjohnso20]

Yup, it's all normal. You'll find your empties in the stratosphere. ;D I shot mine at range last Friday. Guys three stalls down were bringing me my empties. I had brass flying over an 8 foot wall and 30 feet away. It's done that since it was new.

I too reload, the flat spot on the empty cases are not an issue. The sizing die handles it easily. I've got some .380 cases I've loaded 10 times and I've not had a single case split, get stuck in the chamber, or fail to feed reliably.

 

[Ka6otm]

I can't explain it but my P3AT doesn't put a flat spot on the mouth of the cases at all. It puts no mark at all whether I'm shooting full power rounds like Defensive rounds or even if I'm shooting my soft reloads.

It does, however, launch the empties into the next zip code with factory rounds and barely stays in this zip code with my soft reloads. The wife picks up my empties several shooting stations down from where I'm firing.

 

[82boy]

Thanks for the replies, I am just use to the gun shooting the emptys over a couple of feet.

 

[Guest]

Yep ! What everyone else has said. I always saved the brass for reloading on my other autos, the p3at slings them outta sight and can't ever find many of them.

 

[frankmako]

i allways save my brass so i can reload it,,,,except with the p3at. i am lucky to find one out of every 10 rounds fired. so i just gave up on looking for the brass.

 

[BillK]

What! I thought my P3ATs were the only ones that through brass like that.

Bill K.

 

[Guest]

i allways save my brass so i can reload it,,,,except with the p3at.  i am lucky to find one out of every 10 rounds fired.  so i just gave up on looking for the brass.

A friend of mine has the Little copy Pistol and it is the same way.

 

[torrent]

I can't ever find my brass either guys. They probably burn up upon reentry.

 

[82boy]

Well I guess it is time to invent a brass catcher.

 

[82boy]

Has anyone ever rebent the spring, to lessen the ejection throw?

 

[CJP32]

Has anyone ever rebent the spring, to lessen the ejection throw?

I would be careful trying to modify the P3 to keep the brass from going into low orbit.   If you change the speed of the slide too much you will start to get feeding problems.

Wolff Springs does make a few heavier springs for the P3at, they have a kit for $22 that has 3 different springs.   That might help a little but I wouldn't think it would be a big change.  

http://www.gunsprings.com/Semi-Auto Pistols/KELTEC/P3AT/cID1/mID31/dID150

Here is a thread that JFB did a great review of the springs and a quote about the ejection.

http://www.ktog.org/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1245458048/1

....as far as the flight of spent casings, holding the gun gansta style, they all landed 20' to 30' away, even with my worn factory, with the nearest being with the 16 and the farthest with the factory

 

[brobert225]

Agreed. The conventional way to deal with ejection distance is to change the recoil springs. I would not fool with such a small gun however.