Strange looking thing where the primer should be
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Poor QC, even for an inexperienced handloader. Completely unacceptable for any factory ammo, at least to me. Send your picture to the manufacturer, the regional distributor, and anyone else in the supply line you can find or think of. I suspect you will get some attention, and some replacenment ammunition.
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These are remans from a well known ammo company.
I've already sent the photo to their sales e-mail, and the support e-mail.
I am interested in their reaction, it will tell me a lot about the company.
Yes, maybe I will get something out of it.
I've already sent the photo to their sales e-mail, and the support e-mail.
I am interested in their reaction, it will tell me a lot about the company.
Yes, maybe I will get something out of it.
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The funniest part to me is the red sealant got applied. It's an automated process so that's not surprising in the least but it still makes me chuckle.
Peace favor your sword,
Kirk
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It's usually less obvious because it flows along the outside edge. Here you see it pooling.
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This was Freedom Munitions as well. I went through and looked at all 4,500 rounds, and I found a total of 4 rounds with primers reversed. I guess statistically that's not too bad, 1 in 1000 rounds. But not great either.
What was really pathetic was their response. They asked me what they could do to make it right, instead of offering something. After thinking about it for a while, I asked for a 50-round box of their V-MAX ammo, which I had been thinking about trying.
The response just came back saying all they can do is replace what I ordered, if I mail them back in. So I guess they thought it would be worthwhile for me to box up 4 rounds and mail them in, and receive back 4 rounds from them in the mail? They also offered a $10 in-store credit.
I asked why, if they had such a limited scope of action, did they ask me what I wanted to make it right? Dumbass move on their part, setting me up for a rejection. What kind of idiotic "customer service" is that?
I also told them I thought their reputation and a repeat customer (I have purchased 9mm and 380 from them before) was worth more than a $10 credit, and that I am now taking my business elsewhere. And dragging their name through the dirt on the forums.
And now we know what kind of company they are.
What was really pathetic was their response. They asked me what they could do to make it right, instead of offering something. After thinking about it for a while, I asked for a 50-round box of their V-MAX ammo, which I had been thinking about trying.
The response just came back saying all they can do is replace what I ordered, if I mail them back in. So I guess they thought it would be worthwhile for me to box up 4 rounds and mail them in, and receive back 4 rounds from them in the mail? They also offered a $10 in-store credit.
I asked why, if they had such a limited scope of action, did they ask me what I wanted to make it right? Dumbass move on their part, setting me up for a rejection. What kind of idiotic "customer service" is that?
I also told them I thought their reputation and a repeat customer (I have purchased 9mm and 380 from them before) was worth more than a $10 credit, and that I am now taking my business elsewhere. And dragging their name through the dirt on the forums.
And now we know what kind of company they are.
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Illegal to mail ammo or primers as far, as I understand. Has to be shipped, and then with a HazMat fee. So, don't understand their response.
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Sealer is applied after the round is assembled.
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I thought I had a double charge when reloading earlier - spotted it and completely freaked me out. Turned out a FM case got through my QC and a regular charge appears to be a double-charge. The stepped case actually consumes a huge amount of the normal case capacity.
A couple of things come to mind - first, with a very light bullet you normally have to use a large powder charge. BUT, with significantly reduced case capacity this would drive case pressures up and I'l bet you could use a smaller charge. It would also virtually eliminate any potential for a double charge as there would simply be no room left in te case for it.
More brass required for the oddly stepped case though. I'm guessing the bean counters and the reloading 'engineers' got together and created this thing.
A couple of things come to mind - first, with a very light bullet you normally have to use a large powder charge. BUT, with significantly reduced case capacity this would drive case pressures up and I'l bet you could use a smaller charge. It would also virtually eliminate any potential for a double charge as there would simply be no room left in te case for it.
More brass required for the oddly stepped case though. I'm guessing the bean counters and the reloading 'engineers' got together and created this thing.
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