I found the Handloads.com website many months ago. I have no way of verifying their data, but I did notice that the "stopping power" of the 380, properly loaded, was generally better than the 38 special in a 2" snub nosed revolver - even for +P+ loads. In 4", and certainly in 6", barrels the 38 special is expected to perform better, based on the data at this website.Rubb said:
I agree with your emoticon!Rubb said:
A big +1 on this!Ohio_Rusty said:It depends where you shoot them whether it stops them or not. During this cold weather, people are wearing heavy coats and shirts. Some jackets are heavy leather. I'm not making any assumption the .380 is a one shot stopper round. I have a hollow point in the tube followed by 6 FMJ's. Lastly, I'm not planning on shooting them in the chest anyway. I've been practicing shooting in the stomach and below the belt area. When they are gut shot, or I crack and break the pelvis or shatter and explode their hip socket .... I'm pretty sure they will stop and fall down in a somewhat rapid fashion. There was a story last year about many the criminals have bought bullet proof vests off places like Ebay. A bullet proof vest has one big weakness ..... Rarely do they protect anything below the belt line. That means the stomach, groin, et all are an open target, and a bigger target than the head. I'll do as I was taught .... shoot until the threat stops.
Win ST is what I carry in my P3AT. They work just fine. I ordered several boxes from Cheaper Than Dirt. I know the shipping is high but.................rex_dw said:I do not know if is still so but win ST comes 50 round boxes and use to be not to badly priced. If Big IF I can find some and they run in my P3 They may become my carry round. I like being able to shot more than 4 or 5 round of my PD load at the range when I go. Cor-bon Is a bit High to burn 20 or 30 round at the range. I like being able to shot about 50 round cheap and 2 or 3 mag of carry each time I go to the range The ST looks like it is right there with corbon.
+1nicneufeld said:Nic, rethinking his staggered mags....but also thinking how silly he is for changing the order of rounds in his carry mag every time he opens a new KTOG thread
Go to "The Counter" forum and check out the thread on some retard who had a ND and shot his wife. The hollowpoint blew completely through her arm and shattered the bone. The hollowpoint did not expand, possibly because the cavity was clogged with bone. I imagine a chest shot in the vital areas to be quite damaging.rex_dw said:Does anyone have any data about the 380cal (9mm short) in real shooting? FBI, Police etc.