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So, I'm stolling threw WalMart today. As I do whenever I'm in WalMart, I stroll past the ammo counter to see what's in stock. I see one box of 380 in stock. "I'll take it", I tell the guy and he puts it in a bag and I pay. When I get home and pull it out, I notice that I just purchased a box of 91 GR. FMJ, steel case, berdan primed. I did a search and found a few negative and some not so negative comments on steel case ammo. It's totally new to me. I've never fired any in my P3AT.
Just wondering what others thought of steel case ammo. Also, what does Berdan Primed mean?
 

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when I got my p3, it came with this nifty little owners manual. If I'm not mistake, it said no steal cased ammo. My Kimber also says not to carry it in condition 1. Go figure.
 

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Some ranges don't want you using steel case ammo.

I prefer brass or nickel plated cases for carry ammo. Nothing wrong with steel case for target ammo if your range doesn't pitch a hissy over it.
 

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Stay away from steel cased ammo in any Kel-Tec firearm. Kelt-Tecs were engineered for brass ONLY. The steel cases put more stress on the gun, especially the extractor. Steel case rims cause excessive wear on the extractor leading to failure often breaking the extractor.

The rule of thumb holds true: Only use steel cased ammo in Eastern Block countries or forearms still made in former Eastern Block countries. This means AKs, SKSs, Springfield XDs, CZs, etc. These guns were designed to use steel ammo and have much larger extractors, etc.
 

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+1 to what Bill said.

I think the owners manual has "No non standard ammo"   I called KT a couple years ago and they told me that anything other than brass is considered non standard to them.   So they reccomend brass ammo only.

If you only shoot that box I don't think you'll have any problems with your P3 but I wouldn't make a habit of it.

Edit: Copied from the P3 manual-"Never use nonstandard, reloaded or damaged cartridges."

CJ
 

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The steel used in the cases is softer than the steel the pistol is made from so damage to the extractor isn't an issue. I've shot steel case ammo from many of my guns without damaging the extractor.

But the steel case is not as elastic as a brass case so it doesn't seal the chamber as well when firing so it shoots dirtier. Also, steel is a pain and hated by many reloaders.

I looked around for a quote from a KT employee and here it is in a SUB9/SUB2000 thread, no detailed clarification of the "why" just a declaration of the what, "non-standard" like CJP said.

http://www.ktog.org/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1222966478/15#19

Now, how many of you people out there who won't use steel cases will still use reloads?

I do have to say I also consider aluminum case ammo to be highly undesirable and I'll throw the aluminum case stuff away before I'll ever shoot it.
 

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CJP32 said:
I think the owners manual has "No non standard ammo"   I called KT a couple years ago and they told me that anything other than brass is considered non standard to them.   So they reccomend brass ammo only.
That is exactly correct. We have been told by KT engineers and service techs alike, many times, that they consider steel and aluminum to be "non-standard ammunition. When asked they will only recommend factory, brass-cased ammo.
 
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