i went to a gun show down in Manatee Co. today. Just south of Tampa St. Pete. Anyway the largest gun store in the area of course was there with the largest selection. They always have all the Keltec guns on display. I have got to say if I was buying the p380 or p32 I would not have been considered if I didn't know better. All the examples they had were new guns and all looked beat to hell. Rusting barrels, scratched looking blueing, just looked dirty and cheap. How much work is it to oil and rub off the rust? Not only that but they wanted from $289-350 for them. I offered the guys at Shoot Straight Tampa $225 and they acted insulted. I said the gun has rust! Well it will polish right off he says. Yeah maybe so but this is suppose to be new and it looks like it sat in your truck for a week with the windows down. They all come from the factory like that, he tells me. If this is true I find it hard to believe.