slide peening anymore?

Discussion in 'P-3AT' started by moonshot, Sep 7, 2007.

  1. moonshot

    moonshot New Member

    26
    Apr 4, 2007
    Its been a while since I've posted here. What is the status of the peening slides? The last I heard, KT was saying the problem was isolated and new slides were ok, but people on this forum kept getting them, sometimes multiple times.

    Lately, I haven't seen much written about it. It seems like finally the problem is really fixed. If so, what is the serial # prefix denoting the start of the "fixed" slides? If I pick up another P3at, I would like to know that I am getting one with all the goodies. Thanks.

    moonshot
     
  2. Sangueffusor

    Sangueffusor New Member

    May 13, 2007
    Indiana
    This is just a wild guess, but I'm guessing that it got "fixed" sometime during JA***.
     

  3. JFB

    JFB New Member

    Jul 25, 2005
    Reported Slide Peening S# and manfacturing dates
    I believe the post you reffer to is "Did you get a Bad Slide".

    However that post got out of hand and is now locked from updating. Here is the last list from there

    HZUXX *7/20/06
    JODXX --1.4-- 8/7/2006 CWAG *7/27/06
    JONXX --2.2-- 8/14/2006 CWAG
    J26XX --7.4-- 9/11/2006 CWAG
    J2AXX --7.8--9/15/2006 CWAG* 09/06
    J3QXX --12.6--*10/20/2006
    J4RXX -- 16.1--11/20/2006 CWAG
    J5DXX --18.3--12/4/2006 CWAG
    J5KXX --18.9--12/7/2006 CWAG
    J5HXX *12/05/06
    J65XX --20.9--*12/13/2006
    J6HXX --22.0--12/18/2006 CWAG
    J7CXX --25.0--*1/12/07
    J87XX *02/2507
    J8DXX
    J8UXX --30.0--*02/26/07

    * Kel-tec verified manufacture date.


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  4. burley

    burley Well-Known Member

    Nov 26, 2006
    Kansas
    JFB are you keeping the S# / dates up on these ? I thought I saw a J9xxx posted on here as peened. If I find it again do you want me to pm the post to you? -Joe
     
  5. p3at

    p3at New Member

    10
    May 21, 2007
    Actually, I had a JAF** serial # that peened. Sent it back to Cocoa, got the new one in about 2 weeks. Took that to the range, put about 100 rounds through it. No FTF or FTE, BUT.....a little "lip" is starting to show again. Maybe it won't get to "full peen" status. If it does, it makes another trip back. I'll just keep at it until I get a good one. >:(
     
  6. JFB

    JFB New Member

    Jul 25, 2005
    UPDATED
    Slide peening serial numbers -- 1,000 from J0000 (calc # week's production) -- estimated (CWAG) or actual manufactured date

    HZUXX  --  xx --*7/20/06
    JODXX --1.4-- 8/7/2006 CWAG  *7/27/06
    JONXX --2.2-- 8/14/2006 CWAG
    J26XX --7.4-- 9/11/2006 CWAG
    J2AXX  --7.8--9/15/2006 CWAG* 09/06
    J3QXX  --12.6--*10/20/2006  
    J4RXX  -- 16.1--11/20/2006 CWAG
    J5DXX  --18.3--12/4/2006 CWAG
    J5KXX  --18.9--12/7/2006 CWAG
    J5HXX  *12/05/06
    J65XX  --20.9--*12/13/2006
    J6HXX  --22.0--12/18/2006 CWAG
    J7CXX  --25.0--*1/12/07
    J87XX  *02/2507
    J8DXX  
    J8UXX  --30.0--*02/26/07
    J9XXX -- 30.6 -- 03/01/07 CWAG
    JAFXX -- 35.4 -- 04/05/07 CWAG

    *  Kel-tec verified manufacture date.
     
  7. moonshot

    moonshot New Member

    26
    Apr 4, 2007
    Ok everyone, I'm more than a little confused. My admittedly limited understanding of serial number ranges tell me that there are 100 slides between J0A00 and J0B00. Therefore there are 2,600 slides between J0A00 and J1A00, and 26,000 between J0A00 and J9Z99.

    My math might be off, but there have certainly been a lot of slides made from the time the cause of the peening was identified and now. How can there still be peening slides? Even if there are only a limited number of defective slides within the range of slides being made, they seem to be getting past inspection.

    My P3at hasn't peened. The guide rod hole is nice and thick. If the peening slides all have one thing in common - a thin guide rod hole, the "fix" is obvious. What isn't obvious is why is it taking so long for Keltec to ensure only slides with properly drilled holes are being released to the public.

    I have an identified "need" for three more P3at's, but I won't touch them until I see all known problems fixed. I don't want to step on the toes of the loyal KT fans on this board. You all have been very helpful to those of us seeking knowledge or help, and the P3at is a wonderful niche gun, but come on - how long do we have to accept the company line?

    If I am wrong, please show me where. I will apologize to those whom I have offended, and admit my mistake(s).

    moonshot
     
  8. alamo

    alamo New Member

    Sep 12, 2004
    Those are the reported serial numbers with slide peening and estimated production between each bad slide so it's not like every slide in between is bad.  Apparently there were a number a bad batches spread out across those serial number ranges.  Perhaps JFB can confirm or clarify this.

    Some pistols are not sold immediately but sit around for awhile for whatever reason before being sold so one reported this week does not mean currently manufactured ones still have problems.
     
  9. JFB

    JFB New Member

    Jul 25, 2005
    well, your math is wrong... there is actually 3,400 between J0A00 and J1A00 ;) (modified 34base)

    But correct in noting the main precursor to peening so far has been the thichness of the slide around the giude rod hole.

    so just measure the thickness before buying :-/
     
  10. princemorr2003

    princemorr2003 Well-Known Member

    Mar 3, 2005
    my new JAT** P3at according to Rjhauser has the thin guide hole and likely to peen, so we put a JFB washer on it.

    Dan
     
  11. Muddflap

    Muddflap New Member

    28
    Jun 5, 2007
    Mine went bad fairly soon, JAYXX, and I ended up with the recoil spring hanging out the end of the slide. Sent it back to Florida and got a new slide, no questions asked.  The new slide doesn't seem much thicker than the original, so I am using the JFB washers.  75 rounds later, everything looks good, and the gun has functioned perfectly.
    Having said that, I have a personal problem with band-aid fixes.  I feel like the washers are going to work, I just hate to do things like that, and I am still struggling with it.
     
  12. JLeon

    JLeon New Member

    4
    Sep 4, 2007
    I just got a P3AT, 75 rnds and already showing a small bulge/deformation of the rod hole. I will say that in concept the P3AT is great but it sure is a POS.

    Don't plan on using the washer.

    Serial number is JGOxx

    I want my money back and no Wilson I wont sell it for 100 bucks.
     
  13. princemorr2003

    princemorr2003 Well-Known Member

    Mar 3, 2005
    Hey Take the gun back to where you bought it and then shove the money up your arse. OR
    Your best bet is to send the slide back and get a new one, once the new one come, carry the gun.

    I hate it when people come to KTOG to say that their gun is a POS.

    Dan
     
  14. virtual-rj

    virtual-rj New Member

    Jul 22, 2007
    Houston, TX
    IMO, if it peens, send it back

    I use the washer, more as a buffer than anything else.
     
  15. virtual-rj

    virtual-rj New Member

    Jul 22, 2007
    Houston, TX
    princemorr2003, and as I recall 2 wraps of the paper were good, but i got almost 3 in there. so we lubed it, and will see...

    ya know, if it peens, send it back. just a reason to own 2.
     
  16. fmack

    fmack New Member

    44
    Nov 12, 2006
    Just got this one back on September 13th, as a replacement for a peener.
    Its the cleanest I've had in the breech area and also on the inner sides of
    the slide itself. Not many chatter-marks compared to earlier I've had.
    The recoil rod hole only looks to be at a dime-thickness though. That's the
    butt end of the rod inside the hole in the pic. I haven't cleaned it up yet.
    I'll see how it shoots when I get a chance to clean and prep it.
    fmack

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  17. adamsesq

    adamsesq New Member

    Dec 25, 2006
    Only 2? Or did you mean 2 EACH for you, for each child and for wifey?

    ;D

    And I love how someone won't use a .50/washer (bandaid fix?) on their $200/weapon will likely go out, by a $40,000 truck and start adding absolutely un-necessary after market parts!

    -Scott