[EricG23]

Hi all -

Well I took the "little green monster I keep in my pants" (P3AT to the range today for it's second outing, and needless to say I must have wound up with a green frame for LUCK.

NO FTF, NO FTE, no runs, no errors, no drips! FLAWLESS! Even put a box of Win White box through her w/ no burbs what so ever! Accuracy this time (mainly shooting UMC ball) was even BETTER than the first time out! OUTSTANDING! I am MORE than pleased at this point with the little bugger!

As a matter of fact, and no one will believe me probably b/c I had no witnesses, but the very FIRST shot, me being not warmed up yet or anything was DEAD CENTER MASS in the target's chest! WOW! When I finished w/ my second target, I had one gaping hole center of mass, just a little smaller than my fist balled up. Not bad, not bad at all for $300 plastic fantastic.

Oh well, I am sure this getting boring now, so on to more news.......

I also shot my P11 I picked up used from Bam Bam here in Jan. She did pretty well, not as well as the P3AT did, but that is only b/c I am so used to shooting Glocks, and am not used to the P11's trigger yet. Still the shots were all together, just off to one side only b/c you could tell I was anticipating when the trigger would release. There were even a few times when I thought I had pulled the trigger all the way, only to start to release it again to reset too soon. She'll take some practice to get used to, but she still did very well also.

One thing I did notice about the P11 (and this may be true with the PF9s also?) is that mine did NOT like 124 gr "Blazer Brass" ammo what so ever. It seemed like the OAL of the rounds were to long, and it would not allow them to feed into battery reliably. I don't think anything is wrong w/ the gun as it ate everything else I fed it, but it ) DID NOT LIKE this ammo at ALL !

Altogether a pretty good afternoon and the range, and still better than a day at work either way.
For some resason also the P3AT seemed to "feel" like is hitting w/ more power than before (and I shot the P3AT before I shot the P11)? Maybe it was just me? It could be that she's a little more broken in now and a little smoother too? Who knows.........

Eric

 

[TxCajun]

Yet ANTOHER flawless P3AT! 8)

Thanks for posting that even if it's not as "entertaining" as some of the problem posts. Keep shooting that P11. You'll be surprised how accurate you can get with one. Does it have a Hogue Handall Jr? What about a White's trigger stop. Both easy mods that make the gun more fun/comfortable and accurate to shoot:

http://www.1bad69.com/keltec/handalljr.htm

http://www.ktog.org/tecwerks1.htm#White Trigger Stop


Polishing the trigger bar won't hurt either:
http://www.goldenloki.com/guns/keltec/prep.htm

http://www.goldenloki.com/guns/keltec/prep2.htm

Have fun! 8)

 

[EricG23]

Thanks Tx

No, I did not put the Houge handall on this one, which is ironic b/c I normally use them on all of my carry / defensive guns (almost all Glocks). I chose not to use them on either the P11 or the P3AT to help keep the thickness of the gun to a min.; due to pocket carry and not wanting to imped my draw with the P3AT, and to keep the gun nice close up to me with the P11. I am not comfortable with IWB carry at all (P11), so I use a Bianchi nylon "panckake" holster with it that keeps it nice tight up against me. Remember, I'm still stuck here in So. Fla for a while, so heat is an issue still and thin outer covering garments are too. Once we get a little further north and I can use a coat or somthing a little thicker to hide a gun, that may change things. Of course at that point, I may just carry a larger gun too. We'll see......

I'm going to check back into the inner'ds now that I know a little more about the Kel Tec design and how it all works together and comes apart and what not. I know Bam Bam mentioned he polished some of the trigger parts when he had it (not sure what he did polishing wise exactly, I'll have to ask him).

I did do the F & B when he sent it to me, which he had not done, and even on a gun that was already kind of broken in, the F & B DID still help to make her a little smoother still. As a rule of thumb I have done a F & B on ALL of my Kel Tecs as soon as they were new (a P32 and the P3AT) and seems to have made them much better and much smoother from the get go.

I think my biggest issue right now is just getting used to that really looooooong pull. I have the NY1 trigger (8lbs vs a stock 5lb pull) installed in ALL of my Glocks, so I am used to a little heavier trigger pull already than you would have in a normal DA gun. It's just the added length of the KT compared to the Glock that I think I need to get used to more than anything else at this point. The funny thing is the P32 and P3AT don't seem at least to "ME" to have as long of trigger pull as the P11?

Could just be me, could be perception, could be the size difference of the 2 smaller KTs vs the larger P11, who knows?


Oh, and just to make things a little harder on my self too, I just picked up a used Beretta Centurion and a Sig P229 over the past week too! Now I've got 4 different trigger systems to get used to! (KT - DAO, Glock - shorter DAO, Beretta - traditional DA w/ saftey lever, and Sig - traditional DA w/ de-cocker) :O

J/K, I bought the Beretta and Sig just as toys as I had wanted both of them for a long time, but I do not plan on using either one for either carry or defense. I plan on using real guns for that - my KTs and Glocks. J/K, but seriously, the KT and Glock systems are close enough in the way they are operated to me, it makes it easy to use both at the same time and not loose familiarity with either gun due to it manual of arms.

Boy, that got carried away! Sorry about that!

Thanks -

Eric

 

[TxCajun]

The P11 does in fact have a longer trigger pull than the P3s.  Keep shooting it.  Practicing at home with snap caps is helpful too.  Plus, with the second strike capbility of the P11, you only need one.  Just keep pulling that trigger.  The trigger over-travel stop can really help with the long trigger pull, especially if yours has considerable over travel.  You might try an eraser or appliance bumper type stop at first.  If you are mechanically inclinded, these look cool:

http://www.1bad69.com/keltec/whitestop.htm

http://www.1bad69.com/keltec/triggerstop.htm

http://www.1bad69.com/keltec/internalstop.htm

 

[wyo-man]

Good report, good info.








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