[zaitcev]

Remington RP45 and Rp9

http://www.gunsholstersandgear.com/2016/10/24/remington-rp45-new-pistol-launched-nasgw/

You know, Kel-Tec could've made something like this too.

 

[darkwriter77]

One of the commenters summed it up best: it looks like a cross between the Smith & Wesson M&P and a Walther PPQ. I dig it.

But ... how many rounds does it hold? Is it reliable? How much will it cost? When is it coming out? And...

... WILL IT BLEND?

 

[zaitcev]

Apparently they can't decide if the "P" should be uppercase.

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/20...n/new-remington-rp9-full-size-polymer-pistol/

 

[darkwriter77]

Might be the autocorrect on whatever they used to type the article that's forcing the "P" to become lower case...?

The 18+1 capacity of the 9mm version is nice, but other than holding an extra round, I'm not sure what all this offers over the other current full-size models out there from S&W, Ruger, Glock, Springfield, etc.

 

[lklawson]

Might be the autocorrect on whatever they used to type the article that's forcing the "P" to become lower case...?

The 18+1 capacity of the 9mm version is nice, but other than holding an extra round, I'm not sure what all this offers over the other current full-size models out there from S&W, Ruger, Glock, Springfield, etc.

A competing product.

Should I throw in the standard "competition makes things better" lecture?

Peace favor your sword,
Kirk

 

[darkwriter77]

Competition's good, yes, but to compete with other companies, your product has to offer something that the others do not, or it should be able to do the same things that the others do, only better. Far as I can see from just the stats, the RP45/RP9 is fairly "meh," much like the Ruger American Pistol - not bad, just nothing better than what's already out there. It's not significantly cheaper, lighter, more compact, or anything else. And besides, given Remington's track record as of late with the R51 and RM380, I'd be surprised if there aren't at least some initial quality control/design problems with the RM45/RM9 ... unless, of course, they've finally learned from their (VERY expensive) mistakes.

 

[lklawson]

Competition's good, yes, but to compete with other companies, your product has to offer something that the others do not, or it should be able to do the same things that the others do, only better.

No it doesn't. It has to do the same things for about the same price. Any other little thing can make it "competitive" to users. Competing against a Canik, the Remington is American made. Against the Ruger, well, maybe people are still mad at Bill Ruger. This product is reported to have a VERY comfortable grip.

Little things.

And besides, given Remington's track record as of late with the R51 and RM380, I'd be surprised if there aren't at least some initial quality control/design problems with the RM45/RM9 ... unless, of course, they've finally learned from their (VERY expensive) mistakes.

What's bad about the RM380? I'm well aware of the tribulations of the R51 but everything I've heard about the RM380 has been good.

Peace favor your sword,
Kirk

 

[darkwriter77]

The overall reviews of the RM380 have been favorable, but there still have been quite a few reports of folks having functionality issues with 'em. Might've just been with the early run of them, though. I honestly haven't kept up on them much since I held one and realized how huge it is compared to my P32.

I get that a few of these companies are putting out full-size handguns because they're either still competing with others for the military contract thing, or they already got dropped from the competition and they just want to recoup some of their R&D expenses by offering it to the public - pretty sure that's what the case was with Ruger, in particular. I'm sure they will eventually come out with a compact model of the RM-series pistols, but I doubt that they'll bother making a mid-sized Glock 19-ish model ... although I could be wrong there, being that Canik did exactly that just recently with their TP9 Elite. Sure would be nice to see a USA-made, reliable, ergonomic G19-sized pistol with a nice trigger, good sights, stainless stuff, and a price tag that isn't insane...