You guys had me worried about the recoil of this little dude. I just got it today (grey- HC, JPNxx), gave it the F&B and went out for playtime, and it's not as bad as the pf9 recoilwise. I shot 50 rounds of FMJ with a combination of two handed grip, strong hand, weak hand -- no malfunctions, or major recoil issues for me. With the pf9 I generally do not enjoy shooting 50 rnds in one setting. I think I'm gonna skip the rubber grips and pads for now, that may change when I get the Buffalo Bore ammo, I'll just have to wait and see. I don't see how it can be any worse then the pf9, and its going to be a lot nicer to carry.