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RDB-C has fixed non-pistol grip stock and long enough barrel to be cali legal.

Survival is as small and light and compact as possible. 16" lightweight barrel, C-grip collapsible stock.
with flash hider removed, OAL is 24.5" (26" with stock extended)
 

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I cant see why anyone would live in California. Or allow them to dictate to you how and how you can not live or spend your money. A place run by people who assault your rights daily and then blame you for it. What a fouled up relationship.

People who always seem to want to take away your rights to have a gun seem to sound like this to me....

"That gun looks scary cause its black, but; we're not racist... #OnlyBlackLivesSeemToMatter ." Or. "Ewwww. Its one of them bolt action fully automatic semi automatic assault pistol rifled deer hunting rocket launcher. No one needs that to hunt. Duh. All Food milk and eggs is made in the grocery stores. So you don't need that 5,0000 round clipped out revolvered magazine tube fed dead stick. Here. Have a frapichinoMocaEsspressoCoffeebeanpiss starbucks drink. They're to die for. #SaveThePlannetFromHumans." . Fu-ck California. What do they know. Surprised they dont force it to be bullet buttoned with a biometrctic anal scan so you can only look at it in a museum.

Anywho.

I think the RDBsurival seems like a tight light compact rifle. I think if you were just going to heat it up all day long with a few hundred rounds a stronger barrel might be a good idea. But for real world hunting it sounds like a good rifle to have on hand. Standardized mags of 5.56 will be laying around everywhere.

A RFB, RDB, and a KSG should be in every gun cabinet of every American in California. And the United States.... if KelTec can make enough.
 

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I've been looking at RDB's and think that maybe I might want an RDB but I read around and and find things like to quote Texcl2
" The M4a1 platform is both more accurate and reliable than the RDB. Weak points in its design need to be refined, the extractor pin must be fixed, the adjustable gas system is a poor design, the recoil spring system is weak, the controls are poorly laid out, the magazine catch is a poor design / magazine sensitive and QC is lacking."
And now they are using a car antenna for a barrel? Are the known issues being correceted in 2017 or are they exacerbating new ones?
Thanks
 

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I've been looking at RDB's and think that maybe I might want an RDB but I read around and and find things like to quote Texcl2
" The M4a1 platform is both more accurate and reliable than the RDB. Weak points in its design need to be refined, the extractor pin must be fixed, the adjustable gas system is a poor design, the recoil spring system is weak, the controls are poorly laid out, the magazine catch is a poor design / magazine sensitive and QC is lacking."
And now they are using a car antenna for a barrel? Are the known issues being correceted in 2017 or are they exacerbating new ones?
Thanks
If they came out with a downward ejecting bullpup M4, I would buy two. In the meantime, I LOVE my RDB.
 

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My RDB-C is considerably more accurate than the vast majority of M4s. The barrel is heavier than most of them too.

As for the design judgements from Texcl2, those are subjective, mostly inaccurate or outdated, and completely pointless - since we are talking about two weapons designs more than 50 YEARS apart. That's a lot of time to fix things.

If you want something new, be prepared to do a little more work on it. Trash talk serves no useful purpose..
 
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