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Trying to get used to my new RDB-S (after first having to return it for repair after the first 19 rounds.)

Is it just me or does anyone else feel that gripping the rifle and getting a sight picture ( at least in the way I've done since I got my first bb gun at 9) is awkward.

It seems that putting the stock against my shoulder is difficult and I almost have to turn it 45 degrees to get it in the right position from being too short even with the extension all the way out (not that it adds much length.)

Does anyone else have this experience? is it any better with the other RDB models that have front grips , etc?

This design is interesting but I am having difficulty in wanting to rely on it for defense. Controls are way foreign to what I've been accustomed to as well, especially for things like wanting to rack the slide, or inspect the chamber.
 

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This is probably caused by the grip angle of your firing hand, your firing hand must twist more forward than if it is holding a pistol grip. Some may find this uncomfortable, especially for people with joint problems. The RDB-S is exactly as it is named, a survival rifle, not a fully loaded SCAR16

The RDB platform is new and unique when compared to what people is accustomed with, it has its own advantages just like AR15 has its own. In the Army we have a saying "train as we fight", I recommend you try to train with it for a while before making a conclusion. If you think the grip angle is something you can't get pass then I would recommend you try a regular RDB. My own RDB-C has been through a couple hundred rounds without any malfunction and I would continue to train with it because I like the advantages it offers, such as maneuverability, left hand friendly, and easy brass cleanup. Yes chamber check is not as easy as it on AR15 but you can do a cool HK slap for reloading. Nothing is perfect
 

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Thanks for your thoughts. In retrospect i shouldn't have relied on youtube, but then I haven't seen one of these anywhere to actually try out the handling. I liked being a pound lighter and an inch shorter than other RDBs and seemed a better option (and sometimes even shorter) than many AR pistols. It sure gets some looks and questions at the range though, so that's something. Any idea of a way to install something to make it quieter? Got a lot of comments at the range on the loudness of it. Thought I was shooting 12GA.!
 

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If you can find it for cheap, you can get the regular RDB lower and install on the S. You can get this from KT directly by calling them and make an order but I think the price was pretty high.
Any idea of a way to install something to make it quieter?
I think the obvious answer here is a suppressor but I also recommend you look in to SI Oppressor. You will need to replace the muzzle device which means you will lose the front sight.
 

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Even if you had a pistol, or perhaps a "tactical" grip, you may still have trouble with sight height and getting a sight picture. I don't know if you are one of those iron sight purists because you qualified on irons in the military, or, you're wanting to not rely on optics that fail, I get it.
But its time to to use an optic and a riser, that fits your noggin, on that gun. Forget about cheek weld and all that marksman stuff. In fact, get a setup that you can wear goggles with.

I second the idea of getting another lower. KT is, well, you have to catch Erika on a good day.
You might be better going straight to Robin. I'll PM you the number.
 

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Any idea of a way to install something to make it quieter? Got a lot of comments at the range on the loudness of it. Thought I was shooting 12GA.!
This is due somewhat to the barrel on the -S being barely two inches longer than the gas vent (versus 5 on most ARs), so there's less 'dwell' time to let the pressure drop before ALL the remaining pressure us dumped as noise when the projectile leaves the barrel.

The RDB17 is a bit longer, nothing much to say there as 40% vs 60% of AR dwell is both around half as much as it should be.

Then there's the 20" barrel models: They have the dwell of MORE than a normal AR with 6 inches of barrel between gas block and muzzle end, and everyone at the range says mine sounds like an old sewing machine click-clacking away. I've just learned to love that description.

Downside of my 20" vs your 16" model: More time to let gas go through the vent system means I get more blowback than your model does.
 

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Downside of my 20" vs your 16" model: More time to let gas go through the vent system means I get more blowback than your model does.
My 20 inch RDB-C is Still way better than an M16. All the gas are going down the ejection chute, none come close to my face.
 
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