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Hello, new rdb owner here but familiar with keltec. My rdb was manufactured 4/12/17. Will mine have some of the changes or normal upgrades they have made . Is there gen 1 or gen II determinations with third gun yet.

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No gen 1/2/etc. designations that we know of (maybe internally at kel-tec?). Your RDB is new enough it's likely to have the new bolt etc. though. We don't know exactly when the changes took place though.

I made a post a little while back with side by side photos of the old and new style bolt if you would like to be certain. I'd provide a link but I'm on mobile at the moment.
 

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Okay. I just got my RDB back from Keltec today. It says on the slip:

Replaced bolt assembly, firing pin, firing pin spring, and rivets on riveted sear bar.
Works @ +5 gas setting.

I looked at my bolt. It looks the same as it did before. There is even the same yellow "brassy" looking wear marks on the bolt face as if it's been shot a bunch. I doubt a new bolt would look that way.

Did they even do anything to my rifle?? Maybe they were feeling lazy and just sent it back to me without working on it, while saying that they did? I mean, UPS said they received the rifle on the 11th, and I just got it back today. They had it for less than 10 days.
 

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Of course they did the work. How long could they stay in business if people thought they would lie about it?

The color of the bolt? You know they test fire them after working on them, right? And they don't clean them after testing the weapon.

Take it out and shoot it, and count yourself lucky you got it back so quickly.
 

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Well a while back my extractor pin walked out after a range session.
So I called and told them so. The rep sent me out a new extractor pin.
But recently I was feeling a bit uneasy about it.
It still bothered me. I called back and the rep told me that they really shouldn't be sending out parts. Better to send the rifle in and have it fully evaluated. So that's why I sent it in.
 

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On a related note. I stripped down the rifle, but have been having a difficult time removing the bolt cam pin. The firing pin retaining pin and firing pin have been removed. But the cam pin seems like it doesn't want to come out. It wiggles, and I can get it to move a few millimeters out, but it won't come out any further. It wiggles free, but won't fully leave the hole. I am wondering what's going on. It's too slick for me to get a good grip on. I'm using my finger nails.
 

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On a related note. I stripped down the rifle, but have been having a difficult time removing the bolt cam pin. The firing pin retaining pin and firing pin have been removed. But the cam pin seems like it doesn't want to come out. It wiggles, and I can get it to move a few millimeters out, but it won't come out any further. It wiggles free, but won't fully leave the hole. I am wondering what's going on. It's too slick for me to get a good grip on. I'm using my finger nails.
So, you didn't even shoot it?
Just went straight to work taking it apart after trained professionals repaired it, reassembled it, and then tested, and verified it's operation?:wall:
And the reason you sent it in was:
"I was feeling a bit uneasy about it"
 

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I sent it in because the extractor pin fell out. That's not a good thing to have happen, and thus requires repair.

And ofcourse I didn't shoot it. I just got it back in the mail from Keltec. The first thing one should do is strip it down, check to see what has been done/changed/repaired, and to clean and lube it.
 

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Anyhow, I'm having difficulty removing the bolt cam pin. There really arn't any ridged surfaces to grab. And since there is a small bit of oil on the parts, it makes it slick. There is no way to punch it out since there is no hole on the other side. I am trying to use my fingernail to scrape/pull it out, but aside from that, I am unaware of any other methods to remove it. Does anyone here have any advice?
 

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I'm now beginning to worry that they reused the old cam pin from the old bolt, and that's why it might not be sliding out so smoothly in my "new bolt" (if they did indeed put a new one in). Would they reuse the old cam pin, or would they fit in a new cam pin that is designed with the new bolt in mind?
 

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And ofcourse I didn't shoot it. I just got it back in the mail from Keltec. The first thing one should do is strip it down, check to see what has been done/changed/repaired, and to clean and lube it.
No, after they serviced it, you should have taken it out and shot it...period.

But then again, maybe Kel Tec switched your whole rifle out with old used parts. Maybe even someone else's old used rifle!!!

Personally, I think you should contact Kel Tec. See if they'll buy it back from you. I'm not sure if your yanking our chain, or what. You obviously have no idea what you're doing.
 

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You seem to believe that I don't understand what I'm doing when in fact I do very clearly know what I'm doing.
When I first bought this rifle, I read through the manual cover to cover twice, and then made sure I was proficient in all use of the rifle, as well as field stripping and reassembly.

I have shot this rifle numerous times before sending it to Keltec, and I take apart and clean the rifle each time afterwards.

It is foolish to not strip and insect a rifle once it is returned from repair and service. As you already stated, they test fire the rifle before shipping it back to you, and they also do not clean it. You should always clean a rifle before firing it, if it was not already clean.

Some of you say that I should just shoot the rifle immediately after receipt?? It is always wise to take it apart and inspect it. The fact that this is a point of contention is completely absurd to me.
 

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Frostburg, I do not know why folks around here are giving you a hard time. Post #4 now has a link showing the bolt differences. As far as if you should have shot it or inspected it, I would have done the same as you. I too would have wanted to see what they had done to my rifle. This is KelTec after all, and they have been known to do some strange things.
 

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Frostburg, I do not know why folks around here are giving you a hard time. Post #4 now has a link showing the bolt differences. As far as if you should have shot it or inspected it, I would have done the same as you. I too would have wanted to see what they had done to my rifle. This is KelTec after all, and they have been known to do some strange things.
Thanks, I missed that post. It seems I do have the updated bolt (the hole for my extractor pin is D shaped like in the photo).
I am still, however, having trouble removing the cam pin. I called Keltec and they told me that they tightened the tolerances to prevent the cam pin from falling out. They said their techs use a set of pliers to remove them. I tried using the needle nose pliers on my leatherman, but they keep slipping. I think I am going to have to buy a set of rubber gripped narrow point channel locks or something in order to grab it. Ugh. I just want the damn thing out already so I can scrub and oil everything, lol
I feel dumb that I havn't gotten it out yet, but due to being busy helping a friend move, I havn't gone digging to find a better tool just yet.
 

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Okay. I managed to get the cam pin out lol. I used a pair of channel locks from my tool box. Got the interior of the bolt carrier scrubbed and oiled, as well as the entire bolt and cam pin itself. I still havn't removed the extractor for cleaning, and I probably won't until later. It feels tightly in place. Although I do like to remove the extractor for cleaning on every bolt when it's new. After that, I don't bother until many many rounds later.
 
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