Powerful green laser for competition use

Discussion in 'Sub9 and Sub2000 Rifles' started by jwfox, Jun 22, 2017.

  1. jwfox

    jwfox Member

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    Feb 27, 2017
    I'm looking for a green laser sight sufficiently powerful for use on my subbie out to 100-150 yards. The ones I've seen in use don't have the power to do the job past 25 yards...even less on a killer bright Florida day. Any recommendations? Also looking for a decent reflex sight. I plan on sanding down the "hump" on the existing picatinny sight on the forestock to stabilize the platform.
     
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  2. Vireya

    Vireya Member

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    Jun 10, 2017
    Palm Beach Gardens FL
    the one NOT to get is the NcSTAR red/green. I had to return it cpl days ago. Cud not get it to work at inside range
     
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  3. MarkCO

    MarkCO Active Member

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    Crimson Trace RailMaster is the brightest and cleanest dot that is a reasonable cost. I shoot mine in full light out to about 50. I can find it further, but I have to hunt for it a bit.

    When you cross over into the $500 range, it gets better. My military grade unit is a Burris labeled (no longer offered) with a IR and Green and it is visible in full light out to about 100 before I have to hunt for it a tad. It retailed for about $1200 and also has a FFII on top.
     
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  4. BlakeHanson

    BlakeHanson Well-Known Member

    May 31, 2015
    The problem with the green laser is that it takes twice the power (or more) of a red laser.
    To get one like you're talking about, it will not be class IIIa (<5mw) and will be big because of the batteries to drive it. (think 4 packs of cigarettes)
    While you're waiting to get an "industrial" quality laser, for the price of buying lunch for yourself and two buddies, you can get this one to play with. Yeah, it's cheap;).
    It's really bright though (the max for IIIa, I can see it past 50 yards) and has survived on my RFB since 2013:
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0012SNQVY/
    [​IMG]

    Out past 50 yards, you need a scope anyway. (at least I do:rolleyes:)
     
  5. jwfox

    jwfox Member

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    Feb 27, 2017
    Good info. Have you had any problems holding zero?
     
  6. BlakeHanson

    BlakeHanson Well-Known Member

    May 31, 2015
    Me?
    I have a problem holding zero all the time lol.gif .

    The adjustment screws are underneath the front end cap. They seem to stay put. I haven't had to tweak them since setup.
    I can only vouch that it is as accurate as I am:rolleyes:.
    But I don't go shooting at quarters either:confused:.
    The main thing is, it has survived, unlike a lot of other cheap stuff living in the 'organ-donor' box:(.
    For thirty bucks? It's a lot of fun:).
    Edit: Zero in the scope, walk the dot to the center of the crosshairs; done.
    Here it is decorated with some smut from the RFB's gas valve. You think it's been shot? lol.gif :
    IMG_0988_c1.JPG
     
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  7. jwfox

    jwfox Member

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    Feb 27, 2017
    Use is a factor of reliability for me. Obviously you use yours, and WTF, for @ $30.00, you can't loose.
     
  8. BlakeHanson

    BlakeHanson Well-Known Member

    May 31, 2015
    Reviews from the 'high-price' place where people paid $55 for it:eek::
    http://www.opticsplanet.com/reviews/reviews-ncstar-green-laser-w-weaver-base-aprlsg.html
    Keep us posted when you find ones that are brighter than class IIIa (5mw).
    It really bugs me that they won't put more power in one for a gun.
    I think it's something to do with a fire hazard:rolleyes:.
    Here's a 50mw one for $40, but no way to "aim" it:mad::
    https://www.boomlasers.com/50mw_lasers/p-12.html
    [​IMG]
    They do show it lighting matches:rolleyes:.

     
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  9. jwfox

    jwfox Member

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    Feb 27, 2017
    I'll look, but looks like I'll probably be plowing old ground.
     
  10. BlakeHanson

    BlakeHanson Well-Known Member

    May 31, 2015
    And I think they are the ones that get you in trouble with the FAA:(:
    https://www.lasersafetyfacts.com/resources/Laser-hazard-distance-chart.pdf
    Yeah, it's a legality thing:
    http://www.laserpointersafety.com/n...s/461ae1d859ee748f4c9215184ecd1fdc-181.php#on
     
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  11. BlakeHanson

    BlakeHanson Well-Known Member

    May 31, 2015
    Evidently they do exist!:eek:
    "Non-compliant" laser sights are available!
    Does that rail holder look familiar, or it just me? huh.gif
    Middle screw closer to the front than the back?
    laser-sight-mounter.jpg
    This one is a 200mw:
    150mw-200mW-Green-Laser-Rifle-Sights1.jpg


    Oh, $130 for a 200mw or $100 for a 50mw which uses a CR123A battery.
    Or $39.99 for a 100mw one that uses a 16340 battery (rechargeable CR123A).
     
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  12. bullpup-one

    bullpup-one Active Member

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    Oct 6, 2013
    I think I can have a wennie roast with that thing!
     
  13. BlakeHanson

    BlakeHanson Well-Known Member

    May 31, 2015
    You know it's the strangest thing, we can legally buy a .50 BMG rifle but a light that is too bright?
    "You'll shoot your eye out!" panic.gif
    If jwfox doesn't get one, I have plenty of quote.gif non-compliant quote.gif equipment to keep one company nod.gif :D.
     
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  14. MarkCO

    MarkCO Active Member

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    Colorado
    So I was out at the range teaching yesterday and we had several lasers. The CTC laser could be seen in full light by everyone at 50-60 yards. When the sun was behind one of the scattered clouds, that was easily pushed out to 80-100 yards.

    Some guys had some of the cheaper lasers, one was an NcStar. A few guys could see it at 50 yards in full sun, but most could not. Seemed to be about 15-20% less distance than the CTC.
     
  15. bullpup-one

    bullpup-one Active Member

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    Oct 6, 2013
    In truth, if I am using an over powered laser to aim a firearm at you, becoming blind should be the least of your concerns and may be a short lived problem anyway!
     
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  16. BlakeHanson

    BlakeHanson Well-Known Member

    May 31, 2015
    But aren't you terrified that you might accidentally roast your weenie?:eek:
    Compared to an AD, I think it would be more like an accidental tattoo:D.

    at JWFOX: You going to get one first, or does it have to be me?
    I'd like to see the evil "forbidden-light" Eviltwisted.gif .
     
  17. AR1911

    AR1911 Member

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  18. BlakeHanson

    BlakeHanson Well-Known Member

    May 31, 2015
    The more powerful ones put out enough green light to blind you.
    But it is going on a rifle that puts out bullets that can kill you.
    Sometimes people just have to be responsible.
     
  19. AR1911

    AR1911 Member

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    Sep 23, 2011
    Did you read the article?
    2 points
    1 - Some put out much more IR than green, and you will not be aware of it.
    2 - IR can be reflected back at you from Low-E glass even though the green passes through and all looks normal.

    Just something to be aware of when choosing between a name brand and a cheap import.
     
  20. Tiger

    Tiger Active Member

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