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I'm looking for a green laser sight sufficiently powerful for use on my subbie out to 100-150 yards. The ones I've seen in use don't have the power to do the job past 25 yards...even less on a killer bright Florida day. Any recommendations? Also looking for a decent reflex sight. I plan on sanding down the "hump" on the existing picatinny sight on the forestock to stabilize the platform.
 

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I'm looking for a green laser sight sufficiently powerful for use on my subbie out to 100-150 yards. The ones I've seen in use don't have the power to do the job past 25 yards...even less on a killer bright Florida day. Any recommendations? Also looking for a decent reflex sight. I plan on sanding down the "hump" on the existing picatinny sight on the forestock to stabilize the platform.
the one NOT to get is the NcSTAR red/green. I had to return it cpl days ago. Cud not get it to work at inside range
 

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Crimson Trace RailMaster is the brightest and cleanest dot that is a reasonable cost. I shoot mine in full light out to about 50. I can find it further, but I have to hunt for it a bit.

When you cross over into the $500 range, it gets better. My military grade unit is a Burris labeled (no longer offered) with a IR and Green and it is visible in full light out to about 100 before I have to hunt for it a tad. It retailed for about $1200 and also has a FFII on top.
 

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When you cross over into the $500 range, it gets better. My military grade unit is a Burris labeled (no longer offered) with a IR and Green and it is visible in full light out to about 100 before I have to hunt for it a tad. It retailed for about $1200 and also has a FFII on top.
The problem with the green laser is that it takes twice the power (or more) of a red laser.
To get one like you're talking about, it will not be class IIIa (<5mw) and will be big because of the batteries to drive it. (think 4 packs of cigarettes)
While you're waiting to get an "industrial" quality laser, for the price of buying lunch for yourself and two buddies, you can get this one to play with. Yeah, it's cheap;).
It's really bright though (the max for IIIa, I can see it past 50 yards) and has survived on my RFB since 2013:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0012SNQVY/

Out past 50 yards, you need a scope anyway. (at least I do:rolleyes:)
 

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The problem with the green laser is that it takes twice the power (or more) of a red laser.
To get one like you're talking about, it will not be class IIIa (<5mw) and will be big because of the batteries to drive it. (think 4 packs of cigarettes)
While you're waiting to get an "industrial" quality laser, for the price of buying lunch for yourself and two buddies, you can get this one to play with. Yeah, it's cheap;).
It's really bright though (the max for IIIa, I can see it past 50 yards) and has survived on my RFB since 2013:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0012SNQVY/

Out past 50 yards, you need a scope anyway. (at least I do:rolleyes:)
Good info. Have you had any problems holding zero?
 

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Good info. Have you had any problems holding zero?
Me?
I have a problem holding zero all the time
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The adjustment screws are underneath the front end cap. They seem to stay put. I haven't had to tweak them since setup.
I can only vouch that it is as accurate as I am:rolleyes:.
But I don't go shooting at quarters either:confused:.
The main thing is, it has survived, unlike a lot of other cheap stuff living in the 'organ-donor' box:(.
For thirty bucks? It's a lot of fun:).
Edit: Zero in the scope, walk the dot to the center of the crosshairs; done.
Here it is decorated with some smut from the RFB's gas valve. You think it's been shot?
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Use is a factor of reliability for me. Obviously you use yours, and WTF, for @ $30.00, you can't loose.
Reviews from the 'high-price' place where people paid $55 for it:eek::
http://www.opticsplanet.com/reviews/reviews-ncstar-green-laser-w-weaver-base-aprlsg.html
Keep us posted when you find ones that are brighter than class IIIa (5mw).
It really bugs me that they won't put more power in one for a gun.
I think it's something to do with a fire hazard:rolleyes:.
Here's a 50mw one for $40, but no way to "aim" it:mad::
https://www.boomlasers.com/50mw_lasers/p-12.html

They do show it lighting matches:rolleyes:.

 

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It really bugs me that they won't put more power in one for a gun.
I think it's something to do with a fire hazard:rolleyes:.
Here's a 50mw one for $40, but no way to "aim" it:mad::
https://www.boomlasers.com/50mw_lasers/p-12.html
They do show it lighting matches:rolleyes:.
And I think they are the ones that get you in trouble with the FAA:(:
https://www.lasersafetyfacts.com/resources/Laser-hazard-distance-chart.pdf
Yeah, it's a legality thing:
http://www.laserpointersafety.com/n...s/461ae1d859ee748f4c9215184ecd1fdc-181.php#on
"Once in the hands of a U.S. buyer, the buyer can keep the laser. There are no federal laws against owning a laser of any power. An “illegal” laser is one that is manufactured or sold in violation of FDA regulations on safety features, power, and/or record-keeping. In fact, the term “illegal” is confusing. A more accurate term is “non-compliant”, since the laser does not comply with FDA regulations.
 

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Yeah, it's a legality thing:
Evidently they do exist!:eek:
"Non-compliant" laser sights are available!
Does that rail holder look familiar, or it just me?
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This one is a 200mw:
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Oh, $130 for a 200mw or $100 for a 50mw which uses a CR123A battery.
Or $39.99 for a 100mw one that uses a 16340 battery (rechargeable CR123A).
 

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So I was out at the range teaching yesterday and we had several lasers. The CTC laser could be seen in full light by everyone at 50-60 yards. When the sun was behind one of the scattered clouds, that was easily pushed out to 80-100 yards.

Some guys had some of the cheaper lasers, one was an NcStar. A few guys could see it at 50 yards in full sun, but most could not. Seemed to be about 15-20% less distance than the CTC.
 

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In truth, if I am using an over-powered laser to aim a firearm at you, becoming blind should be the least of your concerns and may be a short lived problem anyway!
But aren't you terrified that you might accidentally roast your weenie?:eek:
Compared to an AD, I think it would be more like an accidental tattoo:D.

at JWFOX: You going to get one first, or does it have to be me?
I'd like to see the evil "forbidden-light"
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I read not long ago that some of the cheaper green lasers put out excessive amounts of infrared - enough to blind you.

https://www.technologyreview.com/s/420214/the-danger-of-green-laser-pointers/

I don't know if that's an issue with the units discussed here, but it's something to be aware of.
The more powerful ones put out enough green light to blind you.
But it is going on a rifle that puts out bullets that can kill you.
Sometimes people just have to be responsible.
 

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Did you read the article?
2 points
1 - Some put out much more IR than green, and you will not be aware of it.
2 - IR can be reflected back at you from Low-E glass even though the green passes through and all looks normal.

Just something to be aware of when choosing between a name brand and a cheap import.
 
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