One of the members was puzzled as to why some Golden Sabers expanded in ballistic gelatin and som didn't. I explained that a few years ago Remington changed the design and the new Golden Saber closely resembles the Winchester Silvertip and that the new one is the one that expands, the old design didn't expand and when it did the jacket usually separated from the core--very undesireable when your life depends on it, very limited penetration Anyhow I said I would shoot some pictures. From left to right, the bullets are, #1 old style Golden Saber, #2 new style Golden Saber, #3 Winchester Silvertip. In my opinion, the new Golden Saber and Winchester Silvertip are 2 of the best bullets on the market, I think the Barnes X bullets are at the top and 2nd place isn't even close--mainly because of their expansion--it's astronomical!!! Hope this clears up any confusion about Golden Sabers and will educate folks who go by the stuff--they will know which bullet to look for and which to avoid. The new Golden Saber is still a fine round and a good choice for a defensive round.