Featured PA CQB ACSS 2.5X Question

Discussion in 'RDB Bullpup Rifle' started by Murphmatic, Oct 27, 2017.

  1. Murphmatic

    Murphmatic Member

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    Apr 15, 2017
    Was thinking about mounting a Primary Arms CQB ACSS 2.5X on my RDB.

    I shoot my ARs primarily 25 yards. My reasoning: the rifles I own are for defensive use. Also I shoot at local indoor ranges where the lanes are 25 yards max.

    As I looked more into it the CQB and it’s philosophy of use it seems that, for my needs, it may be a little more than I need.

    Am I mistaken?
     
  2. st381

    st381 Member

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    Feb 9, 2016
    Was thinking about mounting a Primary Arms CQB ACSS 2.5X on my RDB.

    I shoot my ARs primarily 25 yards. My reasoning: the rifles I own are for defensive use. Also I shoot at local indoor ranges where the lanes are 25 yards max.

    As I looked more into it the CQB and it’s philosophy of use it seems that, for my needs, it may be a little more than I need.

    Am I mistaken?


    Nope. Your right. If you can’t hit the target with iron sights at 25 yards, and that’s as far as you plan on shooting, then buy Ammo not optics.
     

  3. Murphmatic

    Murphmatic Member

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    Apr 15, 2017
    Oh, I can hit the target with iron sights on my AR no problem. Just looking for something for quick target acquisition that is slightly better than a red dot but not a full-on scope. Plus I’m on the bubble about installing BUIS on the RDB.
     
  4. st381

    st381 Member

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    Feb 9, 2016
    If your looking at the ACSS 2.5X spend the same money on the PA 1-6 x 24 ACSS scope. The reticle is etched so no need for BUIS and the 1 power is pretty good. It reaches out further than the 2.5 fixed power and look really good on the rifle. If you use a link from the Mrgunsngear YouTube channel they throw in a free mount with purchase.
     
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  5. iamscottasus

    iamscottasus Well-Known Member

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    That dot is almost a pound at 15.5 oz.
    You don't want a "full-on scope". Consider a not full-on scope.
    The Leupold FXII 2.5x20 has more than enuf eye relief at 4-5" and feather weight at 9.6oz with a Aero P mount. Always on. Yes, its fast.

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  6. 44Runner

    44Runner Member

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    Oct 14, 2017
    For me that would be too much magnification at 25 yards. I liked st381's advice to go with at 1-6x24. You could also look at something that starts at 1.25 or 1.5 power, but once it gets more than that, I feel it is a little too disorienting for quick target acquisition. I want something that can be turned way down, preferably to 1 power so it functions like a red dot.
     
  7. mtn_chef

    mtn_chef Well-Known Member

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    And remember once you're eye's start going in your 40's you'll appreciate any help you've already got on a a rifle, just saying... but the red dot will perform in all the capacities you mentioned in the original post.
     
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  8. iamscottasus

    iamscottasus Well-Known Member

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    Can't go wrong with the Trijicon Accupoint. 3-gunner fav for years.
     
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  9. 44Runner

    44Runner Member

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    Oct 14, 2017
    I have a Vortex Strike Eagle 1-6x24 and it is fantastic. It was only like $330 with cantilever mount.
     
  10. iamscottasus

    iamscottasus Well-Known Member

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  11. 44Runner

    44Runner Member

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    Oct 14, 2017
    I have a Vortex Sparc II on my RDB. I dig straight red dots and I thought it would be a good fit on a bullpup which isn't really about precision as much as being a compact and mobile battle rifle. I have a Sig Sauer Romeo5 on my IWI X95. I paid $180 for the Sparc and $160 for the Romeo and I think I might like the Romeo one just a tad better. The dot stays more crisp as you turn up the brightness.

    I also have in my collection a Bushnell 1-4x24 which was only $90 which is perfectly fine if I want magnification. It is on an AR. My absolute favorite is my Vortex Strike Eagle 1-6x24. It is clear and has the best reticle. It was $312 bucks but did come with a free cantilever mount so that was nice. That was me splurging. If it wasn't on sale with free mount, I probably wouldn't have bought it. It is 1 of 2 "nice" optics I own. The other is also a Vortex. A Viper PST gen II 5-25x50 which is on my nicest long range bolt action.

    I dislike fixed magnification, and on guns like the RDB or an AR I want the option of little to no magnification.
     
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  12. Bullpup777

    Bullpup777 Member

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    Mar 20, 2017

    One of the best sights for CQB IS THE Holosun open reflex HS510c. 3 reticles to choose from in the sight including the sharp circle dot reticle, auto on off, 50,000 hour battery, solar powered,excellent viewing window, etc.
     
  13. iamscottasus

    iamscottasus Well-Known Member

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  14. nwfenton

    nwfenton Active Member

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    Murica
    But you are not a Jedi yet.
     
  15. Spike Bull

    Spike Bull Active Member

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    Dec 14, 2017
    I put a PA 3X ACSS scope on my RFB and it is very nice, fairly quick to use in CQB situation but think i would rather have the HOLOSUN HS510G ACSS if i could exchange it easily.
     
  16. Oleg_Volk

    Oleg_Volk Well-Known Member

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    Vortex Spitfire prismatic scope, 1x -- old model with dials rather than new with buttons.
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    Can be shot both eyes open, has illumination and an etched reticle.
     
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  17. sgtsupz

    sgtsupz Member

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    May 6, 2014
    PAC 2.5 is fine. The Holosun HS510 is the bees knees
     
  18. Trunkmonkey

    Trunkmonkey Member

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    Jun 4, 2017
    I love how long this thread has gone on. I have Aimpoint's and acogs. Basically if you want the fastest sight with capability out to two hundred get a red dot. If you want a rugged etched reticle that will work without batteries and give better accuracy/identification past 100 yards get a prism sight. There is no one optic perfect at everything, but I can still run an acog pretty fast up close. I prefer the prism to the dot, but it takes practice. Then again, I'm not kicking down doors for a living, and even if the world ended I don't think that would be the majority of my use for an optic.