P3at Trigger Job?

Discussion in 'P-3AT' started by eric55, Sep 22, 2009.

  1. eric55

    eric55 New Member

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    Mar 13, 2009
    is there a Mod that can be done to lighten the p3at's pull and still be safe i'd like it to be 3 1/2 - 4ibs i tried serching on the site a little but didnt find anything if there is another post on it please direct me to it
    thanks much
     
  2. GoldenLoki

    GoldenLoki New Member

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    Dec 6, 2008
    Nope.

    The best you can do without effecting reliability is smooth it up some.

    GL
     

  3. billjohnso20

    billjohnso20 Active Member

    Dec 7, 2008
    I believe TwoPistolPacker had a mod that used a paper clip to lighten the trigger pull on the PF-9 but it could have been for the P3AT. However, I can't locate it. I'm sure one of the mods can though.

    I personally would not use it or any other mod to lighten the trigger on either gun since the long heavy trigger pull acts as the guns safety. I don't know how much you've shot your gun but after a 100 rounds or so, you start getting used to the trigger pull. It doesn't bother me any more. With enough practice, even using snap caps, you're body will develop a muscle memory that any time you pick up your P3AT you'll instinctively know what you need to do to shoot it well and accurately. You have to put in enough practice though.
     
  4. Bobo

    Bobo Well-Known Member Supporter

    Jun 13, 2005
    A 3.5 to 4 pound trigger on a carry gun with no other safety does not seem very safe to me. The P-3AT's trigger may seem heavy and long to a shooter who is used to a light and short SA trigger. Even so, with practice you can get used to the heavier trigger quite quickly.

    I started shooting handguns with 1911's and Mark I's, both very light and short triggers. It didn't take more than a few range visits to conquer the P-3AT's trigger.

    Try a few different approaches;
    Try a bit more or less finger on the trigger. I do pretty well with the trigger in the finger joint, but even better with the trigger about in the middle of the first pad.
    I'm also more accurate if I stage the trigger, but I am still combat accurate just by pulling smoothly and quickly through the long stoke.

    Remember this is not a target pistol, it is a self-defense pistol. Pin-point target accuracy is not what it's for - combat accuracy is it's purpose.

    Bobo
     
  5. JFB

    JFB New Member

    Jul 25, 2005
    reducing the trigger pull MAY not be a safety concern

    the force pulling the trigger is your hammer spring, all you have to weaken spring stretch so that the hammer spring is not so strong. while you will be able to pull the trigger easier, the hammer may not have enough stricking force to pop the primer, ;)
     
  6. Bobo

    Bobo Well-Known Member Supporter

    Jun 13, 2005
    That's true! That's why Packer's light trigger mod (an older thread) included, in effect, an adjustable hammer spring.

    Bobo
     
  7. JFB

    JFB New Member

    Jul 25, 2005
    I never saw those mod since I didn't want to pay big bucks for a drywall screw, but didn't the firing pin have to be change so that it work with out its spring.  Then you adjusted "trigger" till you got constaint firing
     
  8. bbauman

    bbauman New Member

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    Feb 22, 2009
  9. longbeard48

    longbeard48 New Member

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    Aug 31, 2009
    I personally see nothing wrong with the P3AT trigger.  It took only a few shots to become familiar with.  It's kinda funny to watch your friends squeeze off that first time shot, though. ::)
    Longbeard48
     
  10. lop

    lop Well-Known Member

    May 20, 2008
    correct me if I'm wrong, but the energy put into the trigger is the energy that detonates the primer. If the hammer is very light, dosen't it need more speed to trasfer power to the primer? A heavier hammer would carry more inertia, therefore it could move with less speed. To move a light hammer with enough energy to boost a primer wouldn't you need more spring to slam that hammer harder and faster?
     
  11. doubloon

    doubloon New Member

    Jan 5, 2008
    Houston-ish, TX
    There you go, lighten the spring and throw some lead tape on the hammer. :)
     
  12. JFB

    JFB New Member

    Jul 25, 2005
    for the impact of the hammer on the firing pin, the momentum (p) intial equal monentum final, thus if the p=mv remains constaint the m to v can be inversely propertioanl. so increasing the hamer weight of a slower hammer the firing pin impact will remain the same

    for the acceleration of the hammer the force at impact will be f=mv[sup]2[/sup]/r. there the rotational velocity of the hammer will be the square root of the f. by increasing the weight of the hammer, the force to accelerate it will decrease even with the same input energy

    the petential energy stored in the spring is s=kx, the trigger pull force times the trigger pull lenght.

    since the conversation of energy from the spring to the firing, the momentum factors of the hammer will transfer input energy, thus any thing that reduces the stored potential of compressing the spring will reduce the firing pin momnetum

    so lop statement
    is true. if you reduce the energy in, you reduce the energy that strikes the primer and the m and v components for the transfer of monmetum can vary