p3at slide serrations are terrible

Discussion in 'P-3AT' started by wild_cat_mccane, Jun 20, 2008.

  1. wild_cat_mccane

    wild_cat_mccane Banned

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    Sep 28, 2007
    I gotta say it, the slide serrations on the p3at don't do it for me.

    after only 2 mags, my hand started sweating. I can imagine that this is the body reaction in a defensive situation too.

    My hand slips off the bugger too much.

    Having come from a kahr pm40, man, those serrations were so sharp it felt like it was going to cut you. But it never did. and it always kept your hand on the slide.

    I am sure this subject has been discussed, but add that to the 3rd generation want list from me.
     
  2. Hornett

    Hornett New Member

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    Sep 1, 2006
    I don't know if it's the slide serrations or just the fact that you have a stiff pull (to overcome the recoil spring and the striker) on a very small pistol.
    Personally I don't think better serrations is the answer.
    You get used to it then it;s not as much of an issue.
     

  3. rcmodel

    rcmodel New Member

    Feb 6, 2005
    Eastern Kansas
    Well, I hope I'm not loading mine with sweaty hands during a confrontation.

    I prefer to load mine at home with dry hands.

    However, try holding the gun out in front of you.
    Rotate it to the left slightly and grab the slide with your left hand, thumb on right, four fingers on left of slide.
    Now, PUSH the butt forward with your right hand until it bottoms out.
    Then let go of the slide.

    See, no pulling on the serrations involved, and no sweat!

    rcmodel
     
  4. wild_cat_mccane

    wild_cat_mccane Banned

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    Sep 28, 2007
    the pm40 had a slide pull of about 400 more lbs then the p3at.

    This could all be easily be fixed with actual edges on the serrations...

    does anyone else see this as an easy fix to a problem.

    Well, special edition 3rd generation for me :)
     
  5. adamsesq

    adamsesq New Member

    Dec 25, 2006
    You asked... I see it as a made up solution to a problem that doesn't exist. Have had my hands on lots of P3ATs and never ever ever had a problem racking the slide nor does wifey who has weak hands. Once you know how (squeeze/push) the sharpness of the serations won't make any difference.

    If it is a particular problem for you, you might consider skateboard tape on the side of the slide. That should be abrasive enough.

    -Scott
     
  6. torrent

    torrent Well-Known Member

    Dec 18, 2006
    +1 This will also make sure the slide fully returns and the round is chambered.
     
  7. wild_cat_mccane

    wild_cat_mccane Banned

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    Sep 28, 2007
    ah, that is a good way to do it.

    thanks
     
  8. pilotdane

    pilotdane New Member

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    Jun 2, 2008
    I have never had trouble cycling my slide at the range. But, taking the pistol apart for cleaning is a different matter. I have a habit of partially pulling the slide back with my right hand while I try to remove the pin with my left. This system woks perfectly for my larger pistols but I have a hard time getting a good grip on the little P3at.
     
  9. pocketgun

    pocketgun New Member

    May 4, 2005
    You need to work on a getting a stronger grip. Go to REI and buy one of those grip exercisers they make for rock climbers. My .32NAA upper has no serrations at all, yet I can cycle it with ease.

    [​IMG]

    Edited to add: LINK
     
  10. rcmodel

    rcmodel New Member

    Feb 6, 2005
    Eastern Kansas
    +1

    Sharp slide serrations on a BUG are more a nuisance then a help.

    Personally, I could do without them.

    Adding something else with sharp edges would only wear out my pockets faster!

    rcmodel
     
  11. doubloon

    doubloon New Member

    Jan 5, 2008
    Houston-ish, TX
    +2 rcm
    +1 adam
    +1 pocket
    +1 torrent

    Nothing new to add. ;)
     
  12. JFB

    JFB New Member

    Jul 25, 2005
    ^2 doubloon :cool:
     
  13. TxCajun

    TxCajun Administrator Staff Member Supporter

    Sep 7, 2004
    Texas
    Except that maybe the thread title should have been P3AT Owner Has Terrible Technique. ::)
     
  14. Packer

    Packer Banned

    May 14, 2005
    Here's another way to rack a P3AT slide:

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    Packer.
     
  15. doubloon

    doubloon New Member

    Jan 5, 2008
    Houston-ish, TX
    Heh, that way takes some practice to keep from pinching your skin in the breech. ;)

    But it's very useful for one-handed snap-capping.
     
  16. wild_cat_mccane

    wild_cat_mccane Banned

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    Sep 28, 2007
    Nope nope nope. I stand by what I said.

    Here is what a lot of readers missed. I said I work out every day. A lot. I am a strong guy. I have small hands. Therefore my hands are perfect for the actioning of this slide. It is NOT that the slide is too hard. I thought the PM40 was easy, and many complain they can't rack that slide.

    My problem lies with having sweaty hands. The blued slide is slippery when you have sweaty hands. The provided serrations are more like ascetic additions.

    i truly believe sharper serrations would make this a nonissue.

    I am not sure why someone would be against deeper and sharper serrations on a BUG. That doesn't seem to make sense to me.

    Discuss.

    Try racking the slide with damp hands. i would say 1 in 5 times my hand slips off.
     
  17. peaceful99

    peaceful99 New Member

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    Oct 21, 2005
  18. finz50

    finz50 New Member

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    Mar 2, 2008
    I noticed my P3AT was hard to rack with sweaty hands too.....guess I need to hit the gym huh?
     
  19. pocketgun

    pocketgun New Member

    May 4, 2005
    Don't you guys with the slimy palms worry about rust?

    Yeah finz50, you need to hit the gym. Rack the slide between your massive butt-cheeks Ahnold-style! ;D
     
  20. doubloon

    doubloon New Member

    Jan 5, 2008
    Houston-ish, TX
    Now I'm going to have nightmares ... and you guys give me grief about offensive postings ... sheesh!