P3AT sights modification idea

Discussion in 'P-3AT' started by moparrman74, Feb 20, 2008.

  1. moparrman74

    moparrman74 New Member

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    Jan 28, 2008
    I know some of you have used adhesive to attach a fiber optic sight just behind the front sight.

    But I am curious if anyone has milled the front sight completely off, then drilled and tapped a hole for a small fiber optic sight on the very end of the slide where the factory front sight/"bump" is, in order to keep as much sight radius as possible and keep the profile down for holsters?

    (this would also keep the small fiber optic front sight nearly the same height as the rear sights, eliminating misalignment.)

    moparrman74
     
  2. JFB

    JFB New Member

    Jul 25, 2005
    I have thought about removing the front sight, but not about putting something back ;)
     

  3. RAT76

    RAT76 Active Member

    Aug 21, 2006
    Oklahoma
    P3ATs have sights??? :eek:
     
  4. JFB

    JFB New Member

    Jul 25, 2005
    ;)
     
  5. forestranger

    forestranger Active Member

    Jan 29, 2008
    NC
    I actually got use to 1st gen sites(kind of a dot on top of a dot). I can see 'em at least. can barely see the sights on second gen.
     
  6. Prostatix

    Prostatix New Member

    28
    Feb 7, 2008
    For what this gun was intended for, you arent going to need sights. You'll be lucky enough just to get it out of your pocket in that fleeting instant of a horrific moment.

    But in the small chance that you get time to aim, a laser is prolly your best option.
     
  7. doubloon

    doubloon New Member

    Jan 5, 2008
    Houston-ish, TX
    No actual experience testing this theory and I don't want any but I tend to agree.

    I've ordered a laser for mine, not so much because I think it will make a significant difference in me being able to hit my mark but probably more for the "shock" effect it may have. I'm hoping if the BG sees a laser sweeping his way he'll assume more proficiency than may be warranted on my part and maybe it will make him hesitate or even flee.

    Mind you I won't be waiting to see if he notices the laser or waiting for complements on my choice of equipment. But even if any complements are being offered he'll have to be screaming them at the top of his lungs for me to hear them over the sound of that little magazine being emptied.
     
  8. eduk8tor

    eduk8tor New Member

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    Feb 10, 2008
    I've got a 2nd gen. and have to agree that the sights are a little hard to see, especially if you're in a hurry...and are actually using them! What I did to help enhance the front and rear sight was what I read in one of the earlier posts, I got some Testors model paint, green and orange, and painted the rear sight green and the front sight orange. I used a round toothpick to do the painting. I have found the paint is very durable, and the orange makes the front sight really stand out even when I'm point shooting. For my set up, using a SC, I don't know if I could draw my weapon fast and smooth enough with a laser attached when the chips were down. I'd like to hear from anyone who uses a SC and has optic sights or uses a laser.
     
  9. wheelguy

    wheelguy New Member

    May 4, 2007
    I've tried site paint, as well as both ArmalLaser and CrimsonTrace lasers. IMHO, the more options you have, the better. So, in order of importance...
    1. Practice point shooting until you can do it (point with muzzle, no use of sites). A laser is very useful for dry fire learning/keeping sharp on this important skill.
    2. Paint the sites to make them more visible. I use liquid bandage over the paint to keep paint from wearing off.
    3. Laser gives you better accuracy at distance with high speed. I tried both AL and CT brands - sent the CT back because the button is way too sensitive. Kind of negates the purpose of having a button (control), and it kept going off unexpectedly in my hosters - wearing down the battery to zero randomly.

    [​IMG]
     
  10. Bobo

    Bobo Active Member Supporter

    Jun 13, 2005
    I think any added "edge" in a life threatening situation is worth it.

    I painted the sights with acrylic hobby paint and a toothpick and overcoated the paint with my wife's clear nail polish using a toothpick. This has lasted over 2 years now (carry the gun 24/7/365 and hit the range twice a month).

    I also added the ArmaLaser - love it!

    That's just two "edges"...
    1. The paint gives me an edge in good light, and
    2. The laser gives me another edge all the time but especially in poor light.

    [​IMG]
     
  11. Prostatix

    Prostatix New Member

    28
    Feb 7, 2008
    Bobo, thats a gorgeously modded P3AT. What Grip mods have you done, and do you like it?
     
  12. Bobo

    Bobo Active Member Supporter

    Jun 13, 2005
    So as not to hijack this sight mod thread, here is a link that explains the grip mod I finally decided on that works very well for my long fingers and increases the trigger reach by about 1/4" without changing the overall length of the gun.

    http://www.ktog.org/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1203384334/2#2
     
  13. moondo3

    moondo3 New Member

    36
    May 23, 2005
    There is enough material in the slide to mill the front sight off, then drill and tap for a shotgun bead, fiber optic, or a Marble's tritium (my personal favorite). The sight does sit higher but I haven't had any issues with holsters.    Moondo    
     
  14. moparrman74

    moparrman74 New Member

    18
    Jan 28, 2008
    moondo3, does the sight sit high enough to affect accuracy at say 10 or 15 yards even when you mill the slide?

    And also is the tritium front sight really a huge improvement over the irons. (I would imagine a night and day difference)

    I was wanting to do that or fiber optic on the front to be able to accuire the front sight faster and more accurately when drawing and especially in lower light or when using a flashlight.

    thanks, moparrman74
     
  15. crazylegs

    crazylegs New Member

    39
    Dec 25, 2007
    Moondo3

    Can you post some pics?  That sounds very interesting.  How did you do it and what products did you use? Where did you find the Marble's tritium sight and what was its original application?

    Thanks, Crazylegs
     
  16. boatnsc

    boatnsc New Member

    133
    Sep 22, 2007
    +1 on the testor hobby paint, painted last nite ,range today 50% inprovement
     
  17. Bigsteve

    Bigsteve New Member

    9
    Feb 15, 2008
    Just looking at your sights in the picture. Love how they look. Did you pain the dots on them. Did you use a brush or toothpick? I'm not sure I have a steady enough hand to paint that good of circles! Any advice on how you got your to look so good? Thanks
    Bigsteve
     
  18. gvaldeg1

    gvaldeg1 New Member

    152
    Feb 8, 2008
    Very nice paint job on those sights!  I think that I'm going to paint mine.  I have to renew the paint on my Taurus PT140 sights anyway.  The Taurus has Heine straight 8 sights in white so I guess I'll get some Testors in orange, green, and white.  Also, it looks like you're carrying the same kind of pepper spray and a similar tactical knife to what I have.