these kinds of remarks are what ruin great boards and keeps new gun owners from getting any type of advise or info > And you are about as new here as I am....... Not new to guns at all just new to KT.raymac1215 said:Wow, what a great idea !! If they could turn this into say a .22 for target use they would own the market and blow away the competition. I hope Kel-Tec gets wind of this great idea !!