P3AT feed jam problems

Discussion in 'P-3AT' started by 99ncxj, Aug 28, 2007.

  1. 99ncxj

    99ncxj New Member

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    Aug 28, 2007
    just wondering if anyone else has been having problems with the 2nd gen. .380 jamming on the feed cycle. It happens quite a lot and its starting to concern me about carrying it.
     
  2. RAT76

    RAT76 Well-Known Member

    Aug 21, 2006
    Oklahoma
    Welcome to KTOG.  Need a little more info.  How many rounds do you have thru it? Is this your first P3AT?  How is it lubed?

    These little guys like a lot of lube.  Grease on the slide rails and hammer/slide interface bar and assembly pin.  Oil every place else.  My P3 won't run with just oil.

    They also like to be clean.  Some of them start malfunctioning after 50 rounds due to crud build up.  

    Finally operator technique is more important on these due to their small size.  Because they are so small if any energy is bled off in moving your wrist there will not be enough left to cycle the slide properly.

    Two Pistol Packer has a great set of instructions on how to eliminate "Limp Wristing".  Limp wristing is not a comment on your manhood it is just a descriptive term for letting your wrist move with the recoil rather than letting your entire forearm pivot at the elbow rather than the wrist.

    As your gun wears in (or has its breakin accelerated by a fluff & buff) it will become more forgiving of operator error.

    2PP should be along with those instructions and this time I'm going to copy them for future use.  

    Also hand cycling may not feed while they work just fine while firing. This is normal.

    Hang in there we'll get you up and running in no time.
     

  3. JFB

    JFB New Member

    Jul 25, 2005
    +1 for all of RAT76 comments. So much so let me repeat

    Clean (no more than 25 to 50 rounds without cleaning)
    Lube, a grease is needed.
    a 100 or so rounds may be needed to smooth the surfaces (or the fluff and buff)

    And some people just can't hold the gun for it to cycle. The design is minumun weight to recoil energy and your hand grip is need to add mass to the frame for gun to cycle

    in addition,

    check the 2mm extractor allen. It should be snug (5 to 10 in-lbs only though)
    disassemble and clean the magazine

    give these recommendations a try a little longer, if still a problem a trip back to FLA will fix it
     
  4. RAT76

    RAT76 Well-Known Member

    Aug 21, 2006
    Oklahoma
    Never have had my "Franken Bolt" come loose so I forgot that. :-[
     
  5. alamo

    alamo New Member

    Sep 12, 2004
    Right.

    It wasn't completely clear in the original posting if the problem occurs when actually shooting or just chambering a round. I think he may have been talking about just chambering a round. Please clarify.
     
  6. Welcome 99.

    All comments above are good, but I would encourage you a bit more to cosider the fluff and buff.

    Most of us (SWAG 63.2%) perform at least 50% of the fluff and buff.

    Here are a few links to check for a new gun and the lube info:

    golden loki fluff and buff

    http://www.goldenloki.com/guns/keltec/prep.htm

    http://www.goldenloki.com/guns/keltec/prep2.htm

    new gun prep
    http://1bad69.com/keltec/newgunprep.htm

    dissasembly
    http://www.1bad69.com/keltec/disassembly.htm

    lubrication hints/tips
    http://www.ktog.org/tecwerks1.htm#Lubrication
     
  7. Packer

    Packer Banned

    May 14, 2005
    Better late than never. :D

    This will happen with a superlight gun like this, and there's no shame in it.

    Tips for locking your wrist:

    TWO HANDED:

    1. Place strong hand on grip with finger alongside trigger guard.
    2. Cup weak hand as if you were going to drink water from it.
    3. Rotate weak hand 45 degrees toward your body.
    4. Place palm against front of strong hand fingers, with thumbs nearly parallel.
    5. Line up on target and push forward with strong hand while pulling back with weak hand.
    This will lock your wrist and prevent limp wristing.

    If you have malfunctions while firmly using this grip--Then it's the gun.

    SINGLE HAND GRIP:

    1. Line up on target.
    2. strain hand forward as if you were trying to get the gun closer to the target.

    SHOOTING FROM THE HIP

    To shoot from close in with one hand, do the same straining forward, but lock your elbow so the hand can't actually GET forward. This works from 90 degrees or even from the hip--By tensing your arm muscles. You should practice both.

    Packer.