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Kel-Tec swapped my old P-40 out for a P-11.
The trigger is tearing up my finger so I ordered a Northwood.
One of the posts here said that it is not needed to remove the hammer during installation.
True?
 

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Yeah, in re-reading the instructions...it does have you remove the "hammer/spring assembly"


This is why....

Important: Removing this assembly expedites the frame/grip clearances later without having to attach the grip assembly.
 

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It would be fairly difficult to remove the trigger axis without
removing frame from grip...which would, in turn, be fairly difficult
without detaching the hammer spring from grip.

OTOH, removing hammer spring from grip is fairly easy,
and once frame is out of grip, removing the trigger
axis is also quite easy.
 

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I got the trigger installed with no trouble except having to take a tad off the front edge of the trigger slot in the grip to get a good reset.
Sure makes a big difference in the pistol and well worth the cost to me.
Now to find the right Pachmayr Tactical Grip Glove for the P-11 and I'll be set.
 

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Hey guys. Sorry to resurrect an old thread, but I was hoping you guys could help me. I purchased two kits for my two P11's about three years ago, and only now have had the time to move on this project. I tried looking up installation info on Northwood's site, and was unpleasantly surprised to find they were gone. Fortunately I did (back when I bought them) save a copy of the online instructions with images so using that and the video instructions from the MCarbo spring kits I purchased I was able to install the trigger.

Unfortunately, I do have the problem with having to file the trigger down a bit. I kind of knew it would be a problem before reassembling when I saw the trigger pivot pin left excessive gap in the frame. I reassembled it anyway to see how it would work, and though everything fit fine, the hammer would not release. Now that I know how to take it all apart, and feel comfortable doing so, I plan to take it all apart again and file down the trigger, which is where I'd like a little help if possible.

The instructions I have do show where to file it down, but just to be on the safe side, I was wondering if any of you have pictures of where you've filed yours down. Did anyone else here have to do this? Any suggestions or images you can share? Does anyone know if the Northwood video is online anywhere (was there ever one to begin with)?

Also, now that the P11 has been discontinued, I was thinking of picking up a used one somewhere if I can get it at a good price. Is there anyone else making a replacement trigger for the P11 that you guys can recommend?

Thanks.

Edited to clarify: Originally I said the trigger would not release. Obviously meant the hammer would not release.
 

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wish I could help with the first part of question. as for current producers of trigger kits
Rtk triggers http://www.rtkstrategic.com/

and then Mcarbro has spring kits also that help as well.
Thanks. Yes, I did get the Mcarbo spring kit which I installed along with the trigger upgrade. I was happy that their video did such a good job of showing complete breakdown and reassembly of the P11 that I was able to use it along with the Northwood instructions to get through it. The hardest thing was popping out the pin in the hammer to replace the hammer spring. The next time I do it should be much faster too. Can't wait to get it all finished and working to see how much better the gun behaves.
 

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Well, I wanted to update you guys. I went ahead and trimmed the trigger successfully. I went slowly, but had to remove what I felt was a lot of material. I'd also taken the opportunity to do a full fluff & buff and installing high quality gun grease under the trigger bar. By the end, the gun functioned really well with a sweet trigger pull. I was using it with snap caps as I don't have a way to live fire yet. Trigger release and reset functioned fine.

The only problem I have is that I have almost no overtravel at all. I guess I could keep trimming the trigger to increase the overtravel, but it doesn't seem necessary as the way it functions now feels fine. Does anyone know if this would be a problem?
 
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.., I have is that I have almost no overtravel at all. I guess I could keep trimming the trigger to increase the overtravel, but it doesn't seem necessary as the way it functions now feels fine. Does anyone know if this would be a problem?
Perfect function with zero over-travel is the holy grail we all seek! Just test fire enough to be certain of that perfect function of trigger reset - sometimes live fire introduces conditions that dry fire doesn’t.
 

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As it happens I (luckily) saved the instructions from the Northwood website back in 2017, so I made it into a pdf and just put it in a sharable Dropbox folder for you (I tend to save stuff because I'm paranoid about it not being available later, but this is the first time it's actually worked. :) ). You can find it at the link below. Northwood is gone, so the links you see won't work, and the instructions I printed were for the p11/p40, but the pictures it shows are a pf9 so I assume the instructions would be the same.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/8ycdtqw5c5txx0t/AAAI7EATPm3NGmnjpeOcsQ6ta?dl=0

In reality, I found the MCarbo video to be a lot more helpful in the installation. It's less than 25 minutes long, and you should watch it completely before starting. It's really great and not only does it show you pretty much a complete breakdown of the gun, it does so in a way that makes look so easy it really gives you the confidence to do it yourself. Here's the link to that one:

Where you will need the Northwood instructions will be if your trigger needs some modification as it will show you the points where you may need to file down a little. I ended up using both the MCarbo video and the Northwood instructions to install mine, but I also went ahead and installed an MCarbo spring kit too, and since you're going to do a trigger installation, you should consider getting the springs and doing it too, you'll basically be removing and reinstalling the springs anyway so you migth as well.

Good luck.
 

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Got it saved, thank you much! Your paranoia paid off...for me, LOL.

Which is better, the JRK/Short Stroke or the Northwood trigger? As it happens, I've got one of each, haven't bothered upgrading either pistol.

MCarbo springs on order, along with guide rod, recoil springs, etc. Once I tear it down, might as well replace/polish everything in one go.
 

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Got it saved, thank you much! Your paranoia paid off...for me, LOL.

Which is better, the JRK/Short Stroke or the Northwood trigger? As it happens, I've got one of each, haven't bothered upgrading either pistol.

MCarbo springs on order, along with guide rod, recoil springs, etc. Once I tear it down, might as well replace/polish everything in one go.

Yes, take the opportunity to do a fluff n buff on the inside of the trigger bar and leave it nice and slick, then add some gun grease.

Skip the metal guide rod. Kel Tec offers one too and it's bee nproven that it can actually damage the frame. I imagine the MCarbo one may have the same problem.
 
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