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Discussion in 'KSG Bullpup Shotgun' started by Drvoodoo, Sep 12, 2020.

  1. Drvoodoo

    Drvoodoo Member

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    Sep 12, 2020
    Hi guys my name is Dave from Pa

    I am getting a ksg I ordered a ksg ammo carrier and was looking for advise so I dont make too many mistakes . LOL

    What are some of the things I def need and what are nice to have ?

    Are there any special tools needed ???

    Thanks a lot Drvoodoo !
     
  2. Floyd Eye

    Floyd Eye Well-Known Member

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    Dec 6, 2019
    What is a KSG ammo carrier?

    No special tools needed to disassemble and reassemble a KSG.
     

  3. Cokeman

    Cokeman Active Member

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    Oct 27, 2015
    Utah
    I thought the KSG was the ammo carrier.
     
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  4. WolfWings

    WolfWings Well-Known Member

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    Feb 19, 2020
    Kansas City
    99.999% sure they mean the Hi-Tech 14-shell carrier that slaps over the top of the stock rail. AKA: They're larding it up with kit before even taking it to the firing range. XD
     
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  5. Drvoodoo

    Drvoodoo Member

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    Sep 12, 2020
    Yes I bought a ammo carrier for the top and I'm not new to guns I specialise in 1911 s I'm 53 years old and have been around the block .Have not hogged up anything and sorry I was looking for advise ahead of time .
     
  6. Floyd Eye

    Floyd Eye Well-Known Member

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    Dec 6, 2019

    I have no idea what tools are required to install the Hi-Tech shell carrier. Probably nothing too specialized.
     
  7. SKYDANCER

    SKYDANCER Member

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    Jun 27, 2020
    You will not know what you want,need or like to have till you shot it.
    When you get it, start with snap caps / dummy rounds to become familiar with it's operation. Then get some shells, good selection, slugs,buck,what ever and go shooting.
    Then you will have an idea of what you might like,need or want.
    Have fun.
     
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  8. ksgsk

    ksgsk Member

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    May 8, 2019
    I agree with these guys. Shoot it and get familiar before adding useless additional crap on it and weigh it down. I kept my simple to just optics and nothing extra.
     
  9. Drvoodoo

    Drvoodoo Member

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  10. dfariswheel

    dfariswheel Well-Known Member

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    Jul 17, 2017
    Everyone has different ideas on what's "necessary" and what's not as additions to the KSG.

    Your first buy should be a sight of some sort since the KSG has no sight at all.
    If you're going to go with iron sights, I recommend AR-15 type NON-pop up sights.
    The pop up sights require being popped up, which is something you can forget or takes at least a couple of seconds you may not have.
    Most of the popup sights are plastic and even the metal types can be broken off if bumped.
    A fixed sight is always up and much stronger.
    They also cost more, but if you go with iron sights the cost is well worth it.

    An enhanced recoil pad is nice.
    Whether you go with the Kel-Tec factory extended and wider pad or the excellent slip-on Limbsaver will limit the pounding of recoil.

    A neoprene cheek pad on the receiver may increase comfort.
    Just remember these are simply stuck on and eventually will start peeling off. Then it can be a problem getting it all off.

    A sling can be an advantage even inside the home, but it can also be a hazard at close range and you get grappled with.
    The KSG comes with a good sling or you can buy any one of the numerous sling types available.

    A magazine tube cap removal tool.
    Eventually you'll need to disassemble the magazines for cleaning.
    These are secured with Loctite and can be damaged with expedient tools.
    I recommend buying a tool that interlocks with the caps without any chance of damage.
    Buy one like one of these. Do some online shopping for price......

    https://www.mcarbo.com/kel-tec-ksg-mag-plug-wrench.aspx

    https://www.mcarbo.com/kel-tec-ksg-follower-nut-tool.aspx

    A forward grip/hand stop is a good idea.
    The KS7 is a much better design then the KSG with built in effective hand stop to keep you hand from slipping forward in front of the muzzle.
    You might want to look at the various types of forward grips and hand stops.

    Consider a "fluff & buff" to smooth the action and help eliminate short stroking.
    This may also include a chamber polish to reduce any sticking of shells and failures to extract.
    Instructions for this can be found on this forum.

    Some items I don't recommend, and which are often money wasted.
    Other people will have other ideas about these..........

    A trigger and spring kit.
    The KSG already has the best trigger of any bullpup firearm, and would be the envy of most bullpup rifles.
    Unless you're going to be shooting long range slugs for accuracy the trigger is entirely adequate.

    Magazine followers.
    The heavy plastic factory followers almost always work perfectly, are easy to see, and are self-lubricating.
    If you have a problem, then consider metal followers.

    Extended magazine switches.
    These sound like a good idea, but they stick down out of the gun much farther and this is an increased chance that a bump or getting caught on something will snap it off.
    The bolt that holds it in place is TINY and if broken it would require a trip back to the factory for extraction.
    I found it's easy to just reach under the gun with my left hand and hook the stock mag switch with my index finger and pull or push it.

    Shell deflectors.
    Some people have problems with holding their arm directly under the ejection port and getting hit in the arm with hot-sharp shell cases.
    Deflectors make it harder to load the gun and slow that down.
    Since I learned to shoot with rifles I naturally hold my elbow more out to the side where I don't get hit.
    I think that instead or adding something to the gun that actually makes it harder to use, I'd just train yourself how to hold your arm.

    Added shell holders.
    You already have 14 shells in the gun.
    Under what "Real World" circumstance do you think you'd need more?
    Unless your going into Falluga with the Marines, or a biker gang is going to stage a mass assault on you home, added shells add weight and bulk that slows the gun down.
    I'd take a read of my article on the defense shotgun for some ideas on what's really needed........

    https://www.thektog.org/articles/the-home-defense-shotgun-updated-2020.34/

    Muzzle accessories.
    A interchangeable choke might be a good addition if you intend to use the gun for purposes other then defense, such as shooting slugs at long range or hunting birds of deer.

    Other muzzle additions are often more about appearance then actual utility.
    Many people add muzzle brakes but as discussed in a recent thread on this forum, muzzle brakes have limited effect on low pressure shotguns.

    Grip plugs.
    Unless you see a need to store something in the grip these don't add to the utility of the gun.

    Grip texture stick-on's.
    If you have a problem with holding the gun, these stick on texture covers also eventually peel off and have to be cleaned up.

    Rail covers for the forearm lower Picatinny rail.
    Some people are concerned about a forearm grip breaking off the gun and damaging the forearm so they bolt on a metal rail that covers the plastic rail.
    This happened with early models of the KSG. Since then the forearm has been redesigned to make this much less likely.
    The bolt on rails are really not much stronger since the metal rail can also be broken off if stressed too much.

    The trick here is to just buy a good forward grip that spreads the clamping force over a larger area.
    The "default" forward grip is the MagPul VFG. There are other designs that are also good.

    Bayonet spikes.
    In what circumstance do you envision stabbing someone with spikes?
    How do you plan on explaining in a courtroom about how you bayoneted an intruder? When ever a "non-traditional"
    defense is used the authorities will take a much closer, more suspicious look at a defense case, and consider whether this is a sign of something "off" in the case.
    What do you do when you slip and accidentally stab yourself?

    So, to sum up, you have to do an honest Real World cost-benefit analysis of each and every add-on to determine exactly what the actual benefit is and whether it's worth the added complexity and weight that slows the gun down.
     
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  11. Drvoodoo

    Drvoodoo Member

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    Sep 12, 2020
    You sir are exactly what I was looking for thank u very much !!!!!!