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z71bill said:
How can anyone stay in business if 1 out of every 20 made is a defect?
Gee, I dunno.  How could they be the number one U.S. manufaturer for 32 and 380 acp handgunds if they are on th brink of disaster as you infer?
This would seem to contradict what you imply:

The P32:

2004  -  #2 in U.S. 32 cal production only to Baretta.

2005  -  #1 in U.S. 32 cal production.


The P3AT:


2004  -  #1 in U.S.  380 acp production.

2005  -  #1 in U.S. 380 acp production


P11 production ain't too shabby either.  Kel-tec comes in a respectable #4,
surpassed only by Ruger, Baretta and Hi-Point:

2004  -  9,964  

2005  -  9,986



alamo said:
I found the 2005 figures on the ATF website.  They must have come out recently.  Here's a summary:


P-32  
                  P-3AT        

10,793                      39,784           2005
14,882                      34,969           2004
21,545                      16,269           2003 *

NAA Guardian .32         .380

  434                        1,449             2005
1,032                           410             2004
1,863                        1,683             2003


Seecamp  .32              .380


1,047                            349             2005
1,032                            410             2004
1,463                                4             2003

Here are the reports:

http://www.atf.treas.gov/firearms/stats/index.htm

* P-3ATs first started shipping around 6/03.
To hear you tell it, they are going to go out of business any day now.  But we all know you could do much better than those abismal figures above.  
By comparison, their only competitors' numbers are a joke.

No one here really knows their return rate.  I heard 2% a while back.  Even if it is higher at times, that doesn't mean that the gun didn't fire.  They get returned for a lot of minor issues as well.  

z71bill said:
3 - you can always just tell the guy that is trying to kill you to wait until you get your gun repaired under its "lifetime" warranty.    
Best sell yours and move on then before the the sky falls.   :-/


 
 
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