[10mm_Bob]

Hi All - I picked up a new KSG yesterday, but had to ship it back to Kel-Tec as it had pretty significant feed issues from both tubes. Seems like it's a common issue, and I'm sure I could've easily fixed it myself....But I decided to just let Kel-Tec handle it. I've owned Kel-Tec handguns in the past, and have had good luck with them. This will be my first experience with them doing a repair for me, but I'm confident it'll come back (eventually) ready to go. I've seen plenty of rants about this stuff out there, but I guess I have a different mindset on this kind of thing. As long as it gets taken care of, I'm fine with a bit of "waiting". For what it's worth, I also like 1911's, and trust my life to one every day....but I never trust a 1911 that hasn't been gone over by my gunsmith and had a "reliability" job done on it. Once they are dialed in though, they are the best (in my opinion anyway). I'm sure Kel-Tec has fixed thousands of these KSGs with feed issues, and I'm betting it will come back perfect. In the meantime, I'll just enjoy your posts

 

[jonnin]

Welcome!
I also like single actions. Wife has a tricked out colt gold cup, my 1911 is a mid grade para with a bit of work in it. Got a desert eagle 44 that is more or less a 1911 feel in a real caliber (just kidding), and I carry a sig 938

 

[Alex88]

Welcome; I'm curious to how the repair works out. I'm essentially ready to purchase a KSG myself, especially since Kel Tec is taking on all the issues, but wonder if I should wait a bit more in case it's just a rough batch, or just buy now in case prices would go up.

 

[10mm_Bob]

Welcome; I'm curious to how the repair works out. I'm essentially ready to purchase a KSG myself, especially since Kel Tec is taking on all the issues, but wonder if I should wait a bit more in case it's just a rough batch, or just buy now in case prices would go up.

I wouldn't read into it. I believe the issues with mine would either work out through break in period, or would be a fairly easy self repair (as there are many forum tutorials on this). I just chose to send it in so I wouldn't have to mess with it myself. All firearms manufacturers have glitches. Some just require use to work through them, others need a trip to the gunsmith...but all are solvable.

 

[10mm_Bob]

Welcome!
I also like single actions. Wife has a tricked out colt gold cup, my 1911 is a mid grade para with a bit of work in it. Got a desert eagle 44 that is more or less a 1911 feel in a real caliber (just kidding), and I carry a sig 938

My daily carry is a 10mm Dan Wesson Razorback from the pre-CZ era. It's an amazing firearm, and is unbelievably reliable.

 

[CharlieB]

What exactly were the feed issues?

 

[10mm_Bob]

What exactly were the feed issues?

Same stuff reported by many in the forums. Shells fail to release from the feed tube when the slide is actuated. If I really rack it with force it will feed intermittently. It's the same regardless of which tube I select. Tried three different types of live ammo as will as snap caps. Was the same for all of them. Rather than getting out a file or Dremel and doing the fix that so many have done, I just decided to let Kel-Tec do it. And yes...this is a brand new "latest generation" KSG. Serial number is around 120k. Chances are that a good cleaning and a few hundred rounds might wear things in to a reliable state, but I'm going to get it working right before breaking it in so I can trust it as a home defense firearm.

 

[ClaytonB]

Be sure and keep us updated on the results. Got a green one on order thru my dealer. I just don't understand why kel tec doesn't address this problem on there Ksg's before shipping new units out

 

[10mm_Bob]

Be sure and keep us updated on the results. Got a green one on order thru my dealer. I just don't understand why kel tec doesn't address this problem on there Ksg's before shipping new units out

Will do. I suspect it'll be at least a few weeks before I get it back.

 

[10mm_Bob]

I just got an email from Nick at Kel-Tec stating that the current turnaround time for KSGs is between 2 and 3 weeks. Add in a few days shipping on each side and I'm probably looking at 3 weeks to a month on this. Guess I'll use that time to shop for accessories and ammo

ETA: I just checked FedEx, and my KSG will arrive at Kel-Tec today (I forgot that both Kel-Tec and I are in Florida). I live about 4 hours drive time from Kel-Tec. That will reduce the shipping times, so hopefully I'll see this firearm in a few weeks in "ready to go" condition.

 

[gbdeamer]

I just got an email from Nick at Kel-Tec stating that the current turnaround time for KSGs is between 2 and 3 weeks. Add in a few days shipping on each side and I'm probably looking at 3 weeks to a month on this. Guess I'll use that time to shop for accessories and ammo

ETA: I just checked FedEx, and my KSG will arrive at Kel-Tec today (I forgot that both Kel-Tec and I are in Florida). I live about 4 hours drive time from Kel-Tec. That will reduce the shipping times, so hopefully I'll see this firearm in a few weeks in "ready to go" condition.

Best of luck.

Let us know how things go.

 

[CharlieB]

Same stuff reported by many in the forums. Shells fail to release from the feed tube when the slide is actuated. If I really rack it with force it will feed intermittently.

Sorry for asking, but.... was there any accessory put on the rail of the slide?

 

[shifterkarter]

Was curious if anyone's ever came back after service with the chamber polished...

good question charlie - that seemed to be a common reason for the failure to feed issue.

 

[10mm_Bob]

Sorry for asking, but.... was there any accessory put on the rail of the slide?

No, none yet. Was brand new...fresh out of the box. Was just doing the normal initial testing I do on every new firearm I buy. I hadn't even done the initial cleaning yet. I usually read the manual first, then do a functionality test (with dummy ammo) to make sure everything's seems to be working, then clean and lube, then off to the range for live fire testing. This one failed the functionality test. I did try a couple different types of live ammo as well though just to make sure it wasn't the dummy ammo causing the symptoms.

FYI - I'm an instructor. I actually practice what I teach

 

[10mm_Bob]

Was curious if anyone's ever came back after service with the chamber polished...

good question charlie - that seemed to be a common reason for the failure to feed issue.

I did notice the chamber felt a bit "unpolished", but when the rounds did chamber, they did so (and ejected) with no issues. I suppose the rough chamber would be more relevant to spent-round ejection than anything else, so I won't know if that's an issue until I actually fire it. I'll let you know if it comes back more "polished".

 

[10mm_Bob]

UPDATE: I exchanged emails with Nick at Kel-Tec today. They received my firearm on the 22nd, but have not had a chance to look at it yet. New estimate is that they won't even get to look at the issue for two more weeks (anyone ever see the movie "The Money Pit"?). That'll mean the the firearm was in the shop of over a month before they even diagnosed the issue. Not good. I hope this isn't an indication of significant repair backlogs with the latest run of KSGs. Will keep you all posted.

 

[Sjpajek]

The local shop I bought my KSG from said they are no longer made in fla. Kel-Tec outsource them to an overseas company. So there goes the quality control issues. Kel-Tec gets what they pay for, then passes the "savings" or issues in their case, on to you.

 

[haugrdr]

All of the weapons Kel Tec makes are made in Cocoa Florida.

No matter what someone says.

 

[gbdeamer]

The local shop I bought my KSG from said they are no longer made in fla. Kel-Tec outsource them to an overseas company. So there goes the quality control issues. Kel-Tec gets what they pay for, then passes the "savings" or issues in their case, on to you.

I don't think this is correct.

They make all of their guns in FL.

Not sure if they make all of their part or is they source some materials from outside the country.

 

[10mm_Bob]

"Outsourcing" is common among small machine shops when they get big orders (or get behind)....but it has nothing to do with overseas. They usually go to the other shops in the area and have them make parts. I grew up in my dad's machine shop.