wouldn't that same concern apply to a pretty small and delicate safety blade in a trigger? A grip safety is a pretty robust itemI hear what you're saying, but they still present an extra chance for something to break and render it useless, and it has happened. I won't have any firearm with a grip safety on it, don't even like any safety at all, really.
so you're saying the 30SC needs to be in a gun built to handle 9mm and more stress? good to know. haven't looked into it that deeplyUnfortunately, 30SC has a peak bolt thrust 10% greater than 9mm. The smaller caliber is not enough to offset the increase in pressure.
I think you got it figured out - the smaller measurement is likely for the flush-fitting 12-round mag.is that 5" height with the 12 rd mag or 15?
With the longer barrel/slide, I'd put it more in line with the G48 rather than the G43X - grip length/capacity and all other dimensions are the same between the 43X and 48. Again, a 15-round capacity right outta the box with a thin package the size of a G48 does put it ahead of Glock. Sure, you can poke in a metal magazine release button and Shield Arms S15 Gen2 mags and have 15-round capacity in the G48, but not everyone's willing to do that ... including me, honestly, because the Gen1 S15 mags I have don't drop free and have been VERY problematic (even just as range time accessories). So basically, the P15 has G19 capacity/barrel length from an approximately P365XL-sized package, and (presumably ... and eventually) with factory fiber-optic sights and at a lower price point. Okay, so at least they do have those positives going for it. Main questions, of course, are going to be: 1. Is it actually reliable in Gen1 form, or is it going to have a lot of growing pains and/or require the usual "fluff and buff" stuff before it runs right? 2. What's the ACTUAL retail price going to wind up being? 3. How much will the aftermarket embrace this new model and support it with holsters, sights, and so on? 4. Will my department add it to its approved pistol list? (BWAHAHAHAHAHAhahahaahahaaaaaa ... ohhh, I crack myself up. That'll NEVER happen... )Yup. A competitor to the Sig P365XL and the Glock 43X.
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No P32?The SHOT Show starts in 4 days. I'm sure we'll see some interviews/video with more details. I'll be curious to see how the P15 replaces so many KT models. Having said that, my P11/40/357, PF9/22, and P3AT/32NAA ain't going nowhere.
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Umm.... what? KT lists 6.6" Over all length (apparently for a shorter slide version). The P365XL length is exactly the same, 6.6" and the G43X is 6.5". Basically, identical OAL.With the longer barrel/slide, I'd put it more in line with the G48 rather than the G43X - grip length/capacity and all other dimensions are the same between the 43X and 48.
S&W released a 9EZ modified for 30SC, so clearly they thought it was safe enough. Their release of Shield Plus in 30SC is delayed, but I don't think it's because of safety concerns. So guns at least that big work okay, with a proper metallurgy.so you're saying the 30SC needs to be in a gun built to handle 9mm and more stress?