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I've tinkered with the original front sight on my Gen2 9MM subbie.
Thought that the redesigned version from KelTec would be better ~ then I got to look at the newest one from Red Lion Precision :D

http://www.redlionprecision.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=R12

Courtesy: RLP
Features:
- Flip-up style
- Click Adjustable Windage (same click value as AR15 M4 sights .67" @ 100yrds)
- Click Adjustable Elevation (same click value as AR15 M4 sights 1.72" @ 100yrds)
- Body, Slider, and Top CNC Machined From Aircraft Quality Aluminum And Hardcoat Anodized
- Accepts Any A2 Style AR15 Sight Posts, Elevation Adjusts With Any Longer Style A2 AR15 Sight Tool
- Both Front Sight Post and Globe Ears move with Windage Adjustments
- Timing Nut included for Timing Muzzle Devices (Full radial clearance from face of nut forward)


Kinda like the R12 even though it's a bit pricey :eek:

I'll post some pics when it gets here. AoG
 

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How does the 9MM projectile deal with windage at 100 yards?

Give me some dead on iron sights, and I apply Kentucky windage :)

If it's really windy, the S2K is the wrong gun for the job.



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I'm curious how the new MCarbo sight deals with windage; not clear from the CAD image :confused:
The hole in the side of the sight tower gives me the impression the windage may be adjusted using allen screws. But I could be wrong.

H2OMAN, The one big dig Blue Force Gear (10 years ago) and Red Lion got when they were the ONLY choices for aftermarket front sights was that it was so difficult to get your initial zero because the entire sight had to be tweaked right or left before you could lock it down. And the process of tightening it down still might throw your zero off.

I'm just happy to see so many companies making products for the Sub2K after 20 years of making do with "this might work". The Sub Porn Pic Thread did have an ulterior motive for the first several years of its existence. :cool:
 

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I'm just happy to see so many companies making products for the Sub2K after 20 years of making do with "this might work". The Sub Porn Pic Thread did have an ulterior motive for the first several years of its existence. :cool:
As of May this year I am new to all things Kel-Tec, so I thank you & others for what you have done for KT enthusiasts all of these years. I always like to see the gun community work together to improve upon a solid idea.
 

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Here are some more details about the Mcarbo sights...

Front Sight Features:

CNC Milled 6061 Aluminum
Completely redesigned to stay in place when firing (unlike the stock front sight that moves when firing)
Spring Loaded - Flip Up & Down sight feature
Taller Front Sight than Stock (to allow shooters to have a more natural cheek to stock weld)
More precise windage adjustment that won't move out of place

Rear Sight Features:

CNC Milled 6061 Aluminum
Larger sight aperture than stock plastic sight by .300''
Ambidextrous lever that can be placed on the right or left side
More ergonomic lever
Taller Rear Sight for a more natural line of sight through the center of the rear sight aperture to the front sight post and on to the target
 

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I'm not sure that sight is $96 better than the original. If we were talking about a cheap plastic sight, it might be worth it, but the original is high quality. You're only gaining the ability to fold it.
 

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I'm not sure that sight is $96 better than the original. If we were talking about a cheap plastic sight, it might be worth it, but the original is high quality. You're only gaining the ability to fold it.
The sight on the Gen2 is pretty much junk. Somewhere in the 7-10K range, the windage screw hogs out the housing and eventually pops out. Since I have 6 of them and all of them are showing the same symptoms and 3 failed by 10K, that is more than a happenstance. The upgrade has the windage screw on the other side, but there is no change in the method or parts in the windage setting.

A sight that won't shoot loose, damage the housing and lose windage adjustability due to normal shooting would be a good thing. There are also a lot of people that need a little more height to be able to get a comfortable firing position.

The ability to fold does not make me jump up and down for joy...I'd just like a durable front sight that can be regulated and then stay that way for 50K rounds.
 

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The sight on the Gen2 is pretty much junk. Somewhere in the 7-10K range, the windage screw hogs out the housing and eventually pops out. Since I have 6 of them and all of them are showing the same symptoms and 3 failed by 10K, that is more than a happenstance. The upgrade has the windage screw on the other side, but there is no change in the method or parts in the windage setting.



A sight that won't shoot loose, damage the housing and lose windage adjustability due to normal shooting would be a good thing. There are also a lot of people that need a little more height to be able to get a comfortable firing position.



The ability to fold does not make me jump up and down for joy...I'd just like a durable front sight that can be regulated and then stay that way for 50K rounds.

You should keep in mind that, at least for the Gen 1 Sub, it was designed for a 6000 round life, if I remember correctly. I don't know if that is still the case for the Gen 2 but I would estimate a similar design life based on the similar price point. I'm just saying that I don't think a 50K round life for any component on the Sub is realistic. This is what makes the lifetime warranty all the more attractive.
 

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... I'm just saying that I don't think a 50K round life for any component on the Sub is realistic. This is what makes the lifetime warranty all the more attractive.
Yep, the lifetime warranty is great! We are very fortunate that there are many modification possibilities with the S2K platform :cool:
I look at it as a user-friendly situation; if you like your subby stock, you can keep it that way. Some owners like to change and configure to their particular needs.
That flexibility makes the Sub2000 an interesting firearm to have; I really like mine :D
 
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