I had one. I would, without hesitation, rank it as one of the all-time worst pistols I've ever owned ... and I've had a few over the years. Recoil was downright painful, and even with stiffer magazine springs, the thing would only reliably feed, fire, and eject if you had an absolute, total death-grip on it. I absolutely COULD NOT get the thing to cycle reliably when firing it one-handed, and even two-handed, you had to squeeze it like you were throttling the life out of a rabit bobcat just to keep it from short-stroking and jamming. Size-wise, yeah, it was tiny, and it was definitely light, but given the fact you had to can have any one of several .380 ACP pistols that are slightly smaller but hold more rounds, recoil (slightly) less sharply, can be fired one-handed (reliably), and with the availability of effective .380 ACP defensive ammunition now ... the DB9 just doesn't make much sense. Heck, the Sig P938 is barely bigger, but it is WAY more comfortable to shoot, and certainly a lot more reliable.Anyone who wants a tiny single stack 9mm should consider the Diamondback DB9. It's very thin, looks a lot like a glock, disassembles like one, and, from my experience, is a cracker jack to shoot. If you can do it, it will put them where you want. I will admit that some people have experienced trouble with feeding, but I haven't, and I've read others saying you must grip the gun tightly, no limp-wristing, which is true of most semis. No manual safety, either.
Oh, they're pretty inexpensive, too.
As for pocket-carrying without a safety, I've carried a pocket model Kahr .45 with one in the spout fot the better part of 20 years, since right after they were available. No leg holes from it, yet.
The frame and magazine look nearly identical to me, right down to the over-travel stop. The slide seems very similar with a few differences.Ehhhh ... sorta-kinda. The Savage pistol looks more squared, at least in its slide profile.
FWIW, it passed the all state and federal standardized drop tests.The Honor Guard was basically an M&P Shield knockoff (but with the extra "bonus" of apparently not being drop-safe);
Perhaps the criteria for state and federal standardized drop tests need to be revised. I would be afraid to carry one of those things in a holster and have it get bumped (as I am prone to doing, for I am a clumsy oaf), much less actually drop the thing:The frame and magazine look nearly identical to me, right down to the over-travel stop. The slide seems very similar with a few differences.
FWIW, it passed the all state and federal standardized drop tests.
Peace favor your sword,
Maybe. I'll let someone else spearhead that effort.Perhaps the criteria for state and federal standardized drop tests need to be revised. I would be afraid to carry one of those things in a holster and have it get bumped (as I am prone to doing, for I am a clumsy oaf), much less actually drop the thing:
I've followed TTAG's development for years. During this time period, the have about the same credibility as The Midnight Star. TTAG has greatly improved since it was sold a few years back and I mostly trust it as a source now.◀Previous Post Next Post▶ Earlier today, we ran a post on The Firearm Rack’s outing of Honor Defense’s Honor Guard pistol as failing the most basic impact and drop safety tests. Just as TTAG did when we heard the same reports about the SIG P320, we grabbed a gun ourselves and tested it . ...www.thetruthaboutguns.com
Regardless, that's the rumor that I heard floated.Hopefully the Savage Stance is not based on the Honor Guard mechanically and its only similarities are in its appearance and caliber.
Well, Kelgren did tease a "better" replacement for the P11. And SHOT is coming soon...Either way, the Stance is kinda like the little single-stack pistol that Mossberg came out with awhile back: not bad, and it'll sell a few, but it's not likely to be a huge hit and will easily be forgotten as one of many without bringing anything new to the market or offering anything (even a lower price tag would be nice) over the competition to make it really noteworthy.
Heck, with all that said, I kinda wonder why Kel-Tec hasn't already killed off the PF9. I can't imagine sales are doing all that great nowadays with all the other single- and double-stack offerings on the market. Actually, now that I think of it, I haven't seen a PF9 on a shelf anywhere for quite awhile. Not sure if that's because they've actually been selling a lot or if it's because Kel-Tec hasn't been producing many as they focus production on other things...?
I don't think you can call it a "rumor". It literally is a fact that the gun is basically identical. They are more similar than BB-6 and Kimber Mako. In fact, more similar than Rorhbaugh and Remington RM380. They are as similar as Boberg XR-9S and Bond Bullpup, although the slide is slightly re-countered. No rumor, the facts.\There is a rumor going around that it looks suspiciously similar to the Honor Hefense Honor Guard 9 mm single stack.\