The new KelTec RFB is the finest rifle I have ever had in my hands, that is how much I LOVE it. http://www.kel-tec.com/images/downloads/RFB_Flyer_SHOT_2007_web.pdf It is a .308 actually a full MilSpec 7.62 NATO and has tested with better than sniper accuracy. The longest variation has a 30" barrell and will give .30 caliber MAGNUM power and range!!! Please set up a new Forum for this finest of all rifles/carbines in my opinion. I was able to visit with it for quite some time at SHOT show a few days ago. I can't wait to get mine!!!! Already ordered.