Hi, Here is my P3AT story (happy ending!) After reading the numerous posts on the P3AT on this page, I took the jump and bought a blued 2nd generation P3AT in spring 2005 (serial prefix HO*-**) After cleaning it and inspecting it, the chamber, inner surface of the slide and the underside of the slide where the hammer rubs against felt very smooth to me so I did not do a fluff and buff. I took it to the range and fired a mixed bag of about 150 rounds of ammo (Rem UMC, Mag-tec, Fed Am Eagle). Unfortunately, I was getting about one to two failures-to-extract every 2-3 magazines (I was *not* limp wristing it). I thought of doing a fluff/buff but I just sat on it for a few months due to a lack of time. The happy ending is that after doing some reading on this group about a different extractor, I recently contacted Kel-tec and asked if they could send me the latest extractor and extractor spring. A little over a week later, I received a small padded envelope in the mail and I installed the parts. The new extractor is different from my old one - it has a sharper tip and the shape is different. With the new extractor and extractor spring, I fired another 150 rounds of mixed ammo (same types as before) and the P3AT fed, fired, extracted and ejected *PERFECTLY*! I even tried an additional 50 shots of Walmart Winchester Value Pack 380's with the SWC bullet and those functioned perfectly as well. So if you have a 2nd Gen that has the 'older' extractor, I recommend getting it swapped out if you are having FTExtract's - That fixed the problem for me and I did not even do a fluff/buff. Sorry for the long post, but I am extremely happy with my P3AT and have been carrying it a lot - what a nice gun - I don't even notice the weight! ------------------------ Note: When you install the extractor, there is some slop in its positioning either forward or to the rear of the slide. I would recommend putting it as far forward as possible. I put mine all the way towards the rear of the slide at first, and I could not chamber Magtec ammo as it hangs up on the extractor (perhaps the rim thickness was a bit thicker than normal and the sharper tip digs in somewhere). I could chamber Fed Am Eagle though, and fired a magazine full - that must have set the extractor position correctly and I have had no problems chambering any of the types of ammo I tried after that.