My 2G P3AT story - FTE fixed!

Discussion in 'P-3AT' started by elmgrove1765, Jan 31, 2006.

  1. elmgrove1765

    elmgrove1765 New Member

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    Jan 20, 2006
    Hi,
    Here is my P3AT story (happy ending!)

    After reading the numerous posts on the P3AT on this page, I took the jump and bought a blued 2nd generation P3AT in spring 2005 (serial prefix HO*-**)

    After cleaning it and inspecting it, the chamber, inner surface of the slide and the underside of the slide where the hammer rubs against felt very smooth to me so I did not do a fluff and buff. I took it to the range and fired a mixed bag of about 150 rounds of ammo (Rem UMC, Mag-tec, Fed Am Eagle). Unfortunately, I was getting about one to two failures-to-extract every 2-3 magazines (I was *not* limp wristing it).  I thought of doing a fluff/buff but I just sat on it for a few months due to a lack of time.  

    The happy ending is that after doing some reading on this group about a different extractor, I recently contacted Kel-tec and asked if they could send me the latest extractor and extractor spring. A little over a week later, I received a small padded envelope in the mail and I installed the parts. The new extractor is different from my old one - it has a sharper tip and the shape is different.

    With the new extractor and extractor spring, I fired another 150 rounds of mixed ammo (same types as before) and the P3AT fed, fired, extracted and ejected *PERFECTLY*! I even tried an additional 50 shots of Walmart Winchester Value Pack 380's with the SWC bullet and those functioned perfectly as well.

    So if you have a 2nd Gen that has the 'older' extractor, I recommend getting it swapped out if you are having FTExtract's - That fixed the problem for me and I did not even do a fluff/buff.

    Sorry for the long post, but I am extremely happy with my P3AT and have been carrying it a lot - what a nice gun - I don't even notice the weight!

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    Note: When you install the extractor, there is some slop in its positioning either forward or to the rear of the slide. I would recommend putting it as far forward as possible. I put mine all the way towards the rear of the slide at first, and I could not chamber  Magtec ammo as it hangs up on the extractor (perhaps the rim thickness was a bit thicker than normal and the sharper tip digs in somewhere).

    I could chamber Fed Am Eagle though,  and fired a magazine full - that must have set the extractor position correctly and I have had no problems chambering any of the types of ammo I tried after that.
     
  2. umc

    umc New Member

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    Jan 31, 2006
    Thanks for the info.

    I just bought a P3AT today (excited) and have heard many stories about them good and bad but the bottom line is I'm itching to shoot this thing which I plan on doing by this weekend. Anyway, I'm not sure which extractor I have (HR serial number) but I'll keep this post in mind if I have any problems.
     

  3. elmgrove1765

    elmgrove1765 New Member

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    Jan 20, 2006
    Hopefully, you have the newer extractor, otherwise just call Kel-tec. You may want to buy a shooting glove if you are going to shoot a long string at the range. After about 50 shots barehanded, my hand gets the 'shakes' from the recoil. ;)
     
  4. umc

    umc New Member

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    Jan 31, 2006
    Bah, I laugh at shooting gloves.

    Then again, I think anyone would when they love shooting a S&W 500 magnum with 500 grain bullets, loaded hot without any gloves. ;D

    Anyway, yeah, hopefully it is the newer one but if not I'll be calling. It sounds like they have pretty good customer service.
     
  5. fiddlesticks

    fiddlesticks New Member

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    Sep 14, 2009
    I may have to try a call for a new extractor. I'm loving my new gun, but the FTE's are disturbing. Thanks for this post.

    Jon
     
  6. BillK

    BillK New Member

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    Jul 23, 2007
    Glad to read that you got your P3AT up and running. Good for you for sticking with the P3AT and resolving its issues. Confused about the time frame, you've had the gun since 2006 and just recently shot it for the first time?
     
  7. cassfam

    cassfam New Member

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    Mar 29, 2007
    Bloomington, MN
    His post date is 1/31/2006, so there is no time lag on his end. I often come across older posts and have to figure out that they are non-currents.
     
  8. slf

    slf New Member

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    Nov 21, 2010
    after having most of my P3AT replaced in three trips to Florida, it is now a safe queen. They seem to break if you shoot them.
     
  9. princemorr2003

    princemorr2003 New Member

    Mar 3, 2005
    Really? My p3at has never had any problems even with over 1000 rounds through it. I rarely clean it (except after range trip) and when i do make it to range, even with pocket lint it shoots fine.
     
  10. slf

    slf New Member

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    Nov 21, 2010
    Although I keep my gun cleaner than you, my test is the same. Out of the pocket as if needed and emptied. Strangely it always passed the "test" but usually broke during range plinking trips. Mine probably has a 3k round count. But thats a total lifetime count the slide has only 50 rounds on it. I try to wipe it down every couple of weeks when carried, and found that the hammer would not reset (rotate enough to fire) during a wipe down. Had I gone to the range it would have failed the carry test. Its like a Taurus, you just don't know how the one you got is going act. Big difference, Kel Tec is GREAT about fixing their problem children.
     
  11. fiddlesticks

    fiddlesticks New Member

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    Sep 14, 2009
    I'm a new owner of a p3at having FTE issues. I called Keltec today. Report is that a substandard batch of extractor springs had slid by and don't have sufficient pressure to keep hold of the casing to fully eject. Keltec is sending me a new extractor, spring and screw. This should take care of my problem. I'll let you know how things progress. Had a nice conversation with the woman at Keltec. Great bunch of folks to do business with. Had a little issue with my p 11's slide stop a while back. Got a new one a few days after calling Keltec and has performed flawlessly ever since