[fastfour]

Just picked up a CMR yesterday and promptly got her home to do a little fondling. this thing will not feed a round w/o a FTF. I've used the mags that came w/ the firearm as well as my PMR mags. All mags feed the PMR w/o issue but none of them will work with the CMR.

I then did a little searching and find that this is a major problem. I'll break her down and lube everything up to see if that helps. If not off it will go back to Kel Tec.

 

[edsiajb]

Me too. After waiting several years, I picked up my new CMR yesterday and fired (or attempted to) this morning. I followed the manuals instructions regarding the pre-initial shooting steps. I loaded 4 mags (I've had a PMR for 2.5 years) with 15 rds each of CCI. First two mags were stop and go with FTFs. After 3 rounds from the 3rd mag the bolt assembly locked in the rearward position (regardless of attempting to manipulate the release - or regardless of inserting a loaded magazine).

I finally got the bolt assembly freed. But now it will not strip a round from any mag. And the bolt will not lock back by any method I try.

I guess when KT gets back from vacation, I'll find out how to get this thing back to them. It is very frustrating and disappointing to me. I've been a fan/owner of many KT products for a long time - and this is my reward!

 

[curtmini14]

got one for xmas it runs like a champ with cci 40 tmj i cleaned and lubed it up first through.i left my mags fully loaded over night before i took it out maybe that helped maybe not sorry to hear your woos.

 

[edsiajb]

got one for xmas it runs like a champ with cci 40 tmj i cleaned and lubed it up first through.i left my mags fully loaded over night before i took it out maybe that helped maybe not sorry to hear your woos.

That's good news! At least somebody got one that runs. Yep, I did the clean and lube too (as I was taught as a military armorer) - and my second two mags were very well broken in as they were from my PMR which I've had for 2.5 years. I hope yours keeps functioning well - and I hope mine gets sorted out!

 

[Percevel]

I am sorry to hear that you are having trouble with your CMR. My CMR ran perfectly to the first time I took it out.

I cleaned it and lubed it with Miltech.

I bet if you clean it up and take it out it will work for you.

 

[fastfour]

Off to Kel Tec it goes. Shipped it back today w/o ever firing a round.

 

[Percevel]

Off to Kel Tec it goes. Shipped it back today w/o ever firing a round.

Are you sure you do not want to try firing first or using different ammo?

 

[haugrdr]

Fastfour...you may be disappointed. Other threads recently have been posted about this same situation...Kel Tec may just say if the pistol fires and feeds just fine...but gets FTF with just racking the slide over and over....they won't do much, if anything, about it.

Ya should have at least tried shooting it and see if it breaks in.

 

[fastfour]

Are you sure you do not want to try firing first or using different ammo?

No point in firing a weapon that won't even chamber a round of varying manufacturers from 5 different magazines.

 

[Percevel]

No point in firing a weapon that won't even chamber a round of varying manufacturers from 5 different magazines.

I was just wondering if you ran it a little bit if things might improve. However it seems you have lost some confidence in it. Maybe a trip to the KT mothership will help restore your trust in it.

 

[jonboy77]

Hey man. Don't feel bad. I am having the same problems. Fortunately for Kel-Tec I love this gun. And I love their innovation. But I got mine 2 days ago and been very frustrated every since. I have actually turned down buying this one several times and came across a deal that I couldn't resist even taking in to consideration it may be going back. I will say this good about, it's very accurate. Thankfully Kel-Tec stands behind their product and maybe we will get them back soon.

 

[Nuttinbutnet]

For what it's worth (from my experience anyway) any problems I've had have been magazine related. New mags just need a break in period (I'm a bit compulsive obsessive maybe . . . I have 15 mags) and most all had hang ups for the first 3 or 4 uses but once they are broken in the only problems have been from careless loading. I don't keep up with it but I'm easily over 2000 rounds fired with cmrs. Today with a new cmr (1st time out) the two new mags had problems and two well used mags had no problems. Loading new mags is much more difficult than broken in mags. I really really like the cmr, it's just fun.

 

[jonboy77]

I agree Nutt. They are fun guns. Like I have said when I go to the range they 2 in shoot the most is my sub2000 and now the CMR.

Hey FastFour. I own a lot of guns. I am used to quality ARs, glocks and 1911s. I always read and/or hear about "breaking in" "cleaning and lubing" etc on a new gun. I have never had to do that and I expect them to run like a scalded dog right out of the box but this cmr confused me. Look back at my post on a couple of these threads. Mine went from fixing to through it in the river to running 150-175 rounds with out a catch. I have more ammo on the way and am going to blow threw 300 rounds hopefully without any trouble.

 

[fastfour]

Hopefully it comes back good to go but it should never have gone back in the the first place. It should run right away IMO. If it comes back with problems I'll flip for a profit.

 

[Hoot]

I took my CMR out and it functioned quite well. A few failures to load, but I agree with the other forum members that the magazines are the trouble spot.

I have loaded my magazines with 30 rounds and I'm letting them sit fully loaded for a week or two. I believe the magazine's problem is the double stack feature. I don't believe a single stack would have the feeding problems that seem to brother everyone. Perhaps the aftermarket will come to the rescue.

Loading the magazines is a critical item and you MUST slap the back of the magazine on your hand to fully seat the rounds back against the magazine's rear wall.

I noted that several times the rounds would load too far forward and sometimes a tiny bit crooked. A bit of care when loading the magazines resolved that problem.

I called Keltec and was advised I would have to send the gun in and I should expect 6 to 8 weeks for it to be examined by their gunsmith. I believe sending the gun in is a waste of time.

I believe the only problem with that gun is a poorly designed magazine!

I would rather have a 15 round single stack magazine that works...I can't understand why Keltec doesn't realize that problem exists. Dumb on their part. These little guns are a blast to shoot and are accurate as hell.

For those having problems, might I suggest "breaking in" the magazines before you send the gun back to Keltec. I keep hearing owners having much better results after the gun/magazines have been used and the magazines given time to get that spring pressure reduced. I'm wondering if taking a couple of rungs out of that magazine spring might speed the break in process.

Thoughts???

 

[Gunite]

since ammo tends to come 50 to a case, i tend to only put 25 per magazine.

with a brand new magazine, i also tend to start with 5, then 10, then 15, and so on.

very rarely will i stuff them all the way to 30, maybe 29. it's a fight even when the springs are relaxed, so, meh.

after that, they tend to shoot very well, except for polymer tips - they sometimes get stuck in the magazine. a quick sanding can help with that if i must use them. else, those 50 gr hollowpoints with nickel cases seem the best.

someone with a manual handy, what's the current feeding advise from KelTec? they sometimes change it around, so it's good to know what they say exactly.

 

[mk56]

The manual says CMR30 functions best with high powered ammo of 40 gr and up. Just got mine today and used CCI 40gr Hornady 45gr ftx and Dynapoint

The dynapoint had 1 failure to feed otherwise all woked well. I also only load 25 rds per mag.

 

[Paleofit]

My first trip out last week with mine gave me the same issues-first round would fail to feed and the second wouldn't strip from the mag. I also couldn't get the bolt catch to release. The remaining rounds would load fine. After breaking down and lubing the followers, I can now get the first round to feed and have the bolt catch release. One of the mags had a rusty spring. I have yet to return to the range to fully test functioning though.