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Love my new ks7 blaster. Got the Holosun hs510c and Streamlight TLR1 1000 lumens light. Also, the High tec Customs cheekpad/shell caddy, Kel Tec pic rail, Kel Tec extended butt pad and Mcarbo SP sling mount with Tier 1 single point bungee sling.
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I hope it is more accurate than the stormtrooper's version.
Pretty spot on with slugs at 50 yards
Yeah, the KS7 is a nice light gun and you've kept it that way; kudus to you! And it works better, IMO, than with the carry rail as you have it set up. If you need to get the gun lowered better into your shoulder pocket don't be shy about raising the red dot. It might look strange, but it's got a straight line recoil stock and things might need to be raised up to the eye to lower the gun into the shoulder pocket. Just keep it in mind as an option if it's needed.

To raise the sight lots of $ can be spent, but I find that UTG risers work fine and won't break the bank.
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Great advice and thanks for the kudos !! I am however extremely comfortable with the setup as is. I appreciate your constructive input !!
Love my new ks7 blaster. Got the Holosun hs510c and Streamlight TLR1 1000 lumens light. Also, the High tec Customs cheekpad/shell caddy, Kel Tec pic rail, Kel Tec extended butt pad and Mcarbo SP sling mount with Tier 1 single point bungee sling.
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They really aren't reliable home defense guns. They are fantastic range toys though.

Btw, you've got a Pretty cool setup.
This is rather news to many of us who've shot the dickens out of KS7's and found them to be as totally reliable as any other pump shotgun.

As always, if you have a firearm that's not reliable you should figure out why, and either get it corrected, or get rid of it.
If the problem is operator error, training and practice fixes that.
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They really aren't reliable home defense guns. They are fantastic range toys though.
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What makes it unreliable and a range toy? Mine runs fine with standard length shells, and I might have been the reason it didn't work 100% with shorties.

It's a J Browning design turned into a bullpup and no one had that criticism of the design when it was a long shotgun in standard configuration.
As said, Kel-Tec has modified a Browning design to be used in a bullpup.
John Browning designed the gun and it's still being made as the Ithaca Model 37, one of the old pre-war "tank" shotguns that have proved to be so durable and reliable.
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As said, Kel-Tec has modified a Browning design to be used in a bullpup.
John Browning designed the gun and it's still being made as the Ithaca Model 37, one of the old pre-war "tank" shotguns that have proved to be so durable and reliable.
There is a reason why many police departments continue to use pump action shotguns, their reliability.

No concerns about a KS7 on my side of the bed and one for my wife.
For purely discussion purposes, Rob Orgel of Emergency Response Tactical (who has ten years of experience as a Marine Corps rifleman and tons of experience training military, contractors, LE, and civilians) wrote an article in the fall 2022 issue of Dillion Precision's quarterly magazine The Blue Press entitled "Pump vs. Semiauto Shotgun: Which is Better?" Mr. Orgel made four interesting observations:
  • The shotgun is unique in the gun world in that it feeds a shorter loaded round and extracts/ejects a longer empty one.
  • "Conventional wisdom leads us to believe a pump action is the utmost in reliability because 'we' are in control of its action. Being in 'control,' however, instigates human error, unlike the mechanical action of a reliable semiauto. Often, if we do not rack our pump shotgun with enough power, or we short stroke the action, we induce a malfunction. Having taught many shotgun courses, I've found the operator of the pump causes more malfunctions than the action of the semiauto."
  • A pump shotgun will not communicate with the user that it's out of ammunition. You rack the shotgun, eject the last round, and then click. "In other words, you'll find out you're out of ammo when you attempt to use your weapon." This, he says, comes with "intense consequences." Not so, the semi-auto.
  • Mr. Orgel ran a speed test with three targets 10 yards apart at a distance of 30 yards. Time to engage those three targets with one round each with a pump shotgun was 2.48 seconds. Time to engage those three targets with a semi-auto shotgun was 1.37 seconds.
Mr. Orgel concludes, "I lean heavily toward semiautomatic shotguns mostly because of reliability and knowing how devastating it is when your gun goes click instead of bang." The only drawback to the semi-auto shotgun that he identifies is cost - $400 to $600 for a pump vs. $1200 to $1600 for a semi-auto.
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Today's semi-auto shotguns are far more reliable then the early 20th Century designs, but still they just don't seem to be AS reliable as a pump action.
Today's focus seems to be on gas-operated guns that due to gas system fouling don't seem to be as reliable as the old recoil operated guns like the Browning A5.

Each has advantages, but the limiting factor is the ammunition.
The shotgun shell is virtually unchanged from the 1870's other then the materials used to make them.
It's still a fat, soft, blunt ended rimmed shell that simply isn't as reliable as a pistol or rifle cartridge.
Until a more modern shotgun shell is designed the guns are going to be limited by the ammo.

A more reliable shell might be all-plastic like the old 1960's Wanda shell, and with a rimless tapered case that can feed through double stack box magazines.
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I can't help but wonder if we shouldn't just call them a blunderbus from the sounds of it. Sounds like we are lucky they (pump) go boom on command.
semi vs pump...

That debate has been going on for some time.

The Benelli has been in inventory for a few years now. I wonder how it's military reliability has been? Does anyone know? I do know that I haven't read about any issues with it. But I'm also not taking sides. Today both action types work if chosen with care.

FWIW, I just read a review of the Turkish Benelli clone the Panzer Arms M4 Tactical. The Benelli is $2k the PA is <$500. In the test I read it worked fine and workmanship was excellent. It made it sound good. Now if they made it in 20gauge and in a bullpup... Yeah, I'd sell my KS7 and buy one. I'd give serious thought to buying one in 12 gauge and probably would. But a long long gun? I don't want anymore of them.

FWIW, semi-autos of old gave credibility to the argument of the pump shotgun being superior. That's the nice way of saying the semi-autos weren't reliable. Not all that many years ago there was a Remington semi (I forget the model) whose owners using them in competition owned 3, one to shoot, one in for repairs, and a spare so that when the shooter broke they could keep shooting.
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I think that was the Remington 1100 Model.
I heard stories about the 1100 breaking and not being able to handle different loads very well.

As far as reliability, few guns of any type could rival the Browning A5 and the Remington licensed Model 11.
During WWII air gunners were trained with the Browning and some were fired over one million rounds.
Reliability was excellent with most problems caused by the war-time cardboard shells.

No doubt the modern semi-autos are very reliable, but again, most of the problems are due to the 19th Century design ammo.
Whatever I had, if I road tested it enough to verify reliability, I wouldn't hesitate to use it.
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