Let me start by saying the Kel-tecs are tougher than I am. I stopped shooting because I had a callous forming on my trigger finger (need to sand the -9 trigger) and a 2mm square chunk of skin torn up in the web between my thumb and hand. Yeah, I need to shoot more... Anyway, I started with the PF-9. 50 rounds of Remington UMC went downrange and grouped mostly in 3" at 5 yards, with a couple few flyers at 4-5". 100% reliable. Next I put up a new target, rolled it out 3 yards, and proceeded to put 7 rounds of Corbon DPX into ~2.5" from the new blue/HC P3AT. Followed those up with 27 DoubleTap FMJ's, and I must say these kick harder than the Corbon. They grouped well, and I could feel my hand at this point. Next up was a box of 50 Federal AE thru the PF-9. 100% reliable, 'nuf said. This gun is a keeper! I finished up with 19 Remington UMC thru the P3AT. Perfectly reliable, but since my hand was starting to throb, and was shaking a tad when I hung the last target, decided to call it a day. To date the PF-9 has eaten 100 CCI Blazer aluminum case, 84 Federal HST (standard pressure), 50 Federal AE and 50 Remington UMC without a hiccup. For those that remember the P9/PF-9 drama thread I started some time back, I am planning to sell the Kahr... While it is more comfortable to shoot than the Kel-tec, it is not as comfortable to carry. Since I carry far more than I shoot..... CN: 2 relatively new Kel-tecs 100% reliable, owner is a wimp.