[alter1]

Cool, sounds like you got lucky.

 

[Churchillfan]

I have a light on all my defensive weapons be they rifle, shotgun or pistol. I'm not a bolt every whizbang component on my weapons but I do believe firmly in target identification as I have children, dogs and a wife that works nights. I've taken training courses for pistol and shotgun that both taught the use and application of lights so I find them very useful. Others feel differently, just my opinion.

I use a Streamlight TLR-1s mounted at 6 o'clock and a red dot optic along with a VCAS sling. Since I use a vertical grip behind the light I can cycle the weapon just fine while activating the light with my thumb. I only use "bursts" of light instead of a constant beam. At 120 lumens it's very effective.

 

[Tnronin]

I just got a sun optics verticle grip/LED light combo, I like the idea, the switch I would change if I could. But the price was right. I love a light for the shotgun. Basically an aiming aid.

 

[LexLuger]

How did it hold up? Anybody else have a sun optics foregrip...750 lumens, will they shake to pieces?

 

[Downs]

Adding lights to firearms is just silly to me; like tracer rounds and IR illuminators, there's nothing like announcing your position. 'Just another reason to waste money. I mean honestly unless you're on a crack hit squad up against Predator on a movie set, under most scenarios, how often do you think it's actually going to get used, other than helping you find your way back to the cabin after dusk arrives, or helping you avoid stepping on your childrens toys as you stumble along with your new decked out KSG on the way from your bedroom to the bathroom at 3am to take a leak? I mean you gotta' justify spending the $330+ somehow on that "SureFire Scout Light w/M600V LED Weapon Light with White & IR Output" you got off'a A-m-a-z-o-n, right?

The cost of name brand weapon lights is affordable, very affordable if you have the money to spend on a rifle or shotgun.

Get proper training on how to use a light and you won't be going around "announcing your position". The lights go off as easily as they turn on, so there's no need to be going around being a "lighthouse", that is a bad idea for sure. Only turn it on as needed, use a momentary switch or pad, light up long enough to see what's going on then turn it off and MOVE don't stand in the same spot you turned the light on from. Most weapon lights kick out enough lumens to flash blind someone on the other end as well, at least temporarily.

Target identification is not optional. So some kind of light is going to be needed in low/no light situations even if it's just checking to see what knocked over your trash can in the middle of the night. Unless you want to chance being the guy who killed his teenage neighbor who went into the wrong home after a night of drinking and was raiding the fridge.

 

[McSquishin]

Adding lights to firearms is just silly to me; like tracer rounds and IR illuminators, there's nothing like announcing your position. 'Just another reason to waste money.

Understanding that this is an old thread I feel compelled to reply if for no other reason than to refute this guys ignorance. I take issue with the entire reply, but the quoted part especially. I was a combat medic for a while attached to infantry. We loaded our magazines with a tracer round as the 15th and final 3 rounds in each mag. This allowed us to know in the heat of battle how low our mags were, and frankly once you're 15 rounds into a firefight the element of surprise is long gone.

IR illuminators have a place too if you're equipped for it. I don't see much practical use for civilians, but if Joe Smo has the money to buy a night vision optic and an IR weapon light/laser then how is this not ideal for a bump in the night scenario? People generally don't run this configuration because it's cost prohibitive, not because it's ineffective.

IMO weapon lights are crucial kit for any build. Target identification is a must, full stop. If you are shooting a firearm at night without knowing for sure who or what that round is going into then you don't need to be owning firearms. If you don't want to be broadcasting your position with a weapon light constantly on, then that's why the Good Lord allowed for the creation remote switches. Light up your target, identify it, then light up your target, in that exact order.

When it comes to weapon lights there's also the disorientation factor. There's something to be said for blinding your target with a high lumen light. Alternatively, strobing lights provide you the nearly all the benefits of a traditional light, but they can REALLY jack up a targets ability to engage you.

We can talk about "wasting money" but waste is a relative word here, and just because some people are cheap doesn't mean there aren't benefits, and in some cases crucial benefits, to outfitting builds with certain kit.

 

[GearBolt]

Green lasers will point where you want and produce enough light to see.

 

[Vigilance247]

 

[BlakeHanson]

...Light up your target, identify it, then light up your target, in that exact order.

When it comes to weapon lights there's also the disorientation factor. There's something to be said for blinding your target with a high lumen light...

We need make, model, price and specs!:gaah:
(a link to it would be great too)
All the ones I put on my KSG, it beat them to death with recoil.

 

[Vigilance247]

We need make, model, price and specs!:gaah:
(a link to it would be great too)
All the ones I put on my KSG, it beat them to death with recoil.

Kel-Tec KSG Billet Mini Side Angle Rail for Flashlights (left or right) - by Hi-Tech Custom

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00OM2FZDY/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

INFORCE/EMISSIVE ENERGY W-06-1 INFORCE WML GEN 2 FDE
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LW8H6BF/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

 

[GearBolt]

Kel-Tec KSG Billet Mini Side Angle Rail for Flashlights (left or right) - by Hi-Tech Custom
View attachment 44286
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00OM2FZDY/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

INFORCE/EMISSIVE ENERGY W-06-1 INFORCE WML GEN 2 FDE
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LW8H6BF/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I see smashing your fingers into that. flip it forward. other then that. cool little device.

I use the beast muzzle.

 

[Vigilance247]

I see smashing your fingers into that. flip it forward. other then that. cool little device.

I use the beast muzzle.
View attachment 44376

No issues.

 

[terry_tr6]

 

[terry_tr6]

whose light is it? I like the switch location!

 

[Vigilance247]

whose light is it? I like the switch location!

Inforce WML Gen 2. I posted the link in a previous reply.

 

[terry_tr6]

Inforce WML Gen 2. I posted the link in a previous reply.

thks

 

[GearBolt]

No issues.

stroking it and once or twice to the indoor range does not point out flaws. when you smash your fingers or don't fully seat a round remember my saying it. "flip it forward."

 

[silverback]

Tee hee. I think Pee Wee Herman lost his job that way.

 

[FredleyBanyon]

Sweet setup! I'm working on a light setup similar to yours with the side-rail mount and Inforce WML light. Have you had any trouble with the light getting burned or damaged when firing your KSG? It looks like the light will extend past the muzzle quite a bit.

 

[Vigilance247]

Sweet setup! I'm working on a light setup similar to yours with the side-rail mount and Inforce WML light. Have you had any trouble with the light getting burned or damaged when firing your KSG? It looks like the light will extend past the muzzle quite a bit.

No issues.